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Why is everyone gushing over Tom Daley knitting?

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EastWestWhosBest · 02/08/2021 14:36

Man does a thing considered to be female and everyone is losing their minds over how ‘cute’ it is.

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BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 02/08/2021 22:20

what is the good that arises from Tom Daley posting pictures of himself knitting? (while wearing PJs with tits on I note)

why are people so excited? how will it make the world a better place?

Trampolean · 02/08/2021 22:14

@Pumperthepumper struggling to see how knitting challenges toxic masculinity. It's not really based around activities, I think a lot of people are reading far too much into it.

Pumperthepumper · 02/08/2021 22:13

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Crabbyboot · 02/08/2021 22:11

I think maybe his age plays a part too though, knitting isn't generally associated with young people. My friends think it's funny that I do cross stitching and I am a young (ish) female.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 02/08/2021 22:10

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 02/08/2021 22:07

Clymene, those pyjamas. Shock

Pumperthepumper · 02/08/2021 22:06

@Trampolean

Toxic masculinity is the idea that doing something considered ‘for the girls’ makes you less of a man Is it?
Yes

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity

Trampolean · 02/08/2021 22:05

Toxic masculinity is the idea that doing something considered ‘for the girls’ makes you less of a man
Is it?

Pumperthepumper · 02/08/2021 22:04

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

But an openly gay man in the public eye doing a traditionally female hobby, proudly, is definitely challenging toxic masculinity

crikey, challenging toxic masculinity is not knitting

not exploiting women even if you really, really want something only they can provide would be challenging toxic masculinity

See above.
BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 02/08/2021 22:02

But an openly gay man in the public eye doing a traditionally female hobby, proudly, is definitely challenging toxic masculinity

crikey, challenging toxic masculinity is not knitting

not exploiting women even if you really, really want something only they can provide would be challenging toxic masculinity

Pumperthepumper · 02/08/2021 22:02

@ZuttZeVootEeeVro

But an openly gay man in the public eye doing a traditionally female hobby, proudly, is definitely challenging toxic masculinity.

It doesn't.

Toxic masculinity is behaviours that damage women and children. How does tom knitting or not knitting either damage or protect anyone?

It's a man knitting. That's all.

Toxic masculinity is the idea that doing something considered ‘for the girls’ makes you less of a man. Knitting on a public stage, and proudly posting the results on your very popular Instagram absolutely challenges that idea.
ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 02/08/2021 21:59

But an openly gay man in the public eye doing a traditionally female hobby, proudly, is definitely challenging toxic masculinity.

It doesn't.

Toxic masculinity is behaviours that damage women and children. How does tom knitting or not knitting either damage or protect anyone?

It's a man knitting. That's all.

TrainedByCats · 02/08/2021 21:46

@Clymene

Tomorrow knitting in his crying women PJs
Blimey that shirt (pjs?) is a bit grim

Afraid I can’t see him and unsee the baby buying anymore

Melroses · 02/08/2021 21:38

Men have been knitting since forever 🤷‍♀️

Pumperthepumper · 02/08/2021 21:36

@Clymene

How is renting a woman's womb 'challenging toxic masculinity' *@Pumperthepumper*? Or does the fact that he knits wipe out his misogyny?
It isn’t. And it doesn’t.

But an openly gay man in the public eye doing a traditionally female hobby, proudly, is definitely challenging toxic masculinity.

At no point have I said he’s the poster boy for wiping out misogyny.

KittenKong · 02/08/2021 21:28

I’m not. I can’t warm to him.

Clymene · 02/08/2021 21:28

How is renting a woman's womb 'challenging toxic masculinity' @Pumperthepumper? Or does the fact that he knits wipe out his misogyny?

Pumperthepumper · 02/08/2021 21:27

I’m asking why is it when a man does something that is usually perceived as a female thing some people carry on like it’s the most amazing thing.

It’s because not enough men do it. That’s it. It’s a rarity.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 02/08/2021 21:25

cor, some people really love Tom Daley don't they?

EastWestWhosBest · 02/08/2021 21:21

@Snoozer11

I haven't seen any gushing, tbh.

This feels like quite a nasty post.

What is nasty about it?

I’m asking why is it when a man does something that is usually perceived as a female thing some people carry on like it’s the most amazing thing. It’s no comment on him.
I wonder the same when people comment on my DH doing the ironing.

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Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 02/08/2021 21:19

@DaisiesandButtercups

The deletions on this thread! We’re not allowed to express how we feel about the exploitation of women, the intentional traumatising of mothers and babies by separating them without the reasonable cause of child protection and the commodification of humanity by turning babies into consumer products now?!
This with big clanging bells on.
Pumperthepumper · 02/08/2021 20:56

@FloralBunting

God forbid I have a feminist opinion about him that I defend on a feminist message board. Checking out now. We've obviously got a very different perspective on challenging stereotypes, and I've expended enough energy disagreeing with you, which I still do. I'll leave it by pointing out that nothing about TD knitting publicly or getting very excited about it liberates women. Which is the thrust of the feminism I understand.
It’s not about women’s response though, it’s what he can do to challenge toxic masculinity. As I said, you’re just being belligerent.
FloralBunting · 02/08/2021 20:55

God forbid I have a feminist opinion about him that I defend on a feminist message board. Checking out now. We've obviously got a very different perspective on challenging stereotypes, and I've expended enough energy disagreeing with you, which I still do. I'll leave it by pointing out that nothing about TD knitting publicly or getting very excited about it liberates women. Which is the thrust of the feminism I understand.

Snoozer11 · 02/08/2021 20:55

I haven't seen any gushing, tbh.

This feels like quite a nasty post.

Splendo · 02/08/2021 20:46

The cooing I've seen has mainly been related to the fact that he apparently auctions off his finished knitted creations to raise money for charity. I haven't checked the veracity of that, but that's what is being gushed about on the craft groups I'm on.

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