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Will Hubbard make people think?

89 replies

InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 02/08/2021 12:19

I'm not so sure. Certainly doesn't seem to be the case with DW or MIL. I knew DW was Be Kind, but didn't expect my MIL to support males in women's sports.

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BlaydonRaces · 03/08/2021 17:15

From that BBC clip:
"She's had a huge impact on the sport"

No thank you!

TheWeeDonkey · 03/08/2021 17:14

@Mrsjamin

The trouble is Hubbard's performance won't really get rid of anyone's confirmation bias.
Just watched on YouTube. I can only assume LH turned up to take the piss, which is even more infuriating that women lost out to a chancer who's only goal was to open the door to more TW in women's sports and therefore destroy women's sports.
BlaydonRaces · 03/08/2021 17:13

Oops sorry, my fault for not giving context Smile

FindTheTruth · 03/08/2021 17:12

@BlaydonRaces

It feels like a T-shirt project in the making:

"Men in women's sports?
No thank you"

"Rapists in women's prisons?
No thank you"

"Men in women's changing rooms?
No thank you"

Having seen the clip, I now understand this 😂
FindTheTruth · 03/08/2021 17:11

@BlaydonRaces

2 minute clip of the medal winners press conference:

The contrast between the respect that Emily Campbell has for her training partner and fellow medallist Sarah Robles, and Robles' reply to the LH question, could not be more plain.

Well done all 3 for their composure (and for their brilliant performances!)

Oh wow!! 👏❤️
TonyThreePies · 03/08/2021 17:10

So Lauren is now retiring.

DevonTF · 03/08/2021 17:10

twitter.com/BekiH20/status/1422561098646147081

Press conference with the Winners - these are the strong, brave women we should be proud of. Their class and dignity from 1m55s is awe inspiring.

BlaydonRaces · 03/08/2021 17:01

It feels like a T-shirt project in the making:

"Men in women's sports?
No thank you"

"Rapists in women's prisons?
No thank you"

"Men in women's changing rooms?
No thank you"

BessieWallisWarfield · 03/08/2021 16:58

That clip is quite something. In a sane world it would feature in all the coverage.

What a shame that they are women and nobody cares what they think.

BrozTito · 03/08/2021 16:51

I tend to ask people that if they believe men can ID as women, is Rachel Dolezal black and right to believe she faces the same oppression as a white woman who claims shes black. Thats tipped a few over the edge

NiceGerbil · 03/08/2021 16:47

Sorry the clip of the winners being interviewed

NiceGerbil · 03/08/2021 16:45

And they must have agreed before to do that.

NiceGerbil · 03/08/2021 16:44

Wow.

Well that was pretty clear.

GoWalkabout · 03/08/2021 16:40

Words need to mean something clear 'woman', 'biological'

GoWalkabout · 03/08/2021 16:39

I may have ranted to dh at the bbc news description of Hubbard as 'born biologically male'!! How about 'is biologically male' since sex can't change. No issue with Hubbard choosing to compete but huge issue with the ridiculous approach of the IOC washing their hands of it and leaving individual sports to make their own rules (but come under the enormous pressure the IOC are abdicating). There doesn't need to be precise lines drawn for each individual sport, when xx and xy are the obvious fair status quo option.

BlaydonRaces · 03/08/2021 16:38

2 minute clip of the medal winners press conference:

The contrast between the respect that Emily Campbell has for her training partner and fellow medallist Sarah Robles, and Robles' reply to the LH question, could not be more plain.

Well done all 3 for their composure (and for their brilliant performances!)

Pellewsmate · 03/08/2021 16:31

@ScreamingMeMe
I wondered about that, even if true it doesn't explain why LH didn't go on stage at the same time as the women, why did LH felt the need for the late entrance and making women get out of the way.

TonyThreePies · 03/08/2021 16:09

Interesting to see how Hubbard is pretty much being described as transgender or a transwoman. What happened to TWAW?

ScreamingMeMe · 03/08/2021 15:41

Ok some TRAs on twitter are saying that the weightlifters would have designated spots on the stage so that's why Hubbard did that. Does anyone know of that's true? I don't trust a word that comes from TRAs on twitter. But I also don't want to unfairly criticise someone. A small point I know, but still! I want to be better than TRA smear merchants.

ScreamingMeMe · 03/08/2021 14:58

@Mrsjamin

Fear or discomfort has led to people not supporting LH, apparently. People are just people, too. PROFOUND I tell you, profound.

Also, LH is speaking so carefully trying to make LH's voice not as deep.

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ScreamingMeMe · 03/08/2021 14:57

[quote FindTheTruth]This clip of the female weightlifters making way for LH
mobile.twitter.com/laura92brown/status/1422211403990118400[/quote]
Hubbard looks far from vulnerable there, expecting (and getting) the female competitors to make way for Hubbard, instead of joining on at the end. Twat.

littlbrowndog · 03/08/2021 14:30

Profound indeed

Mrsjamin · 03/08/2021 14:20
Fear or discomfort has led to people not supporting LH, apparently. People are just people, too. PROFOUND I tell you, profound.

Also, LH is speaking so carefully trying to make LH's voice not as deep.

Abhannmor · 03/08/2021 14:06

Yes GNCQ I wonder if he had to include the 'sad and vulnerable " to get it past the Borg?

NotAnotherAlias · 03/08/2021 13:06

Well I guess I’ll reword my previous post from this thread which was moderated as apparently it’s fallen foul of the talk guidelines.

My husband’s views seem to have changed significantly on seeing LH compete yesterday. This was a topic we couldn’t see eye to eye on until that point.