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BluePorchAwning · 02/08/2021 12:06

www.olympicstreams.me/live-weightlifting-women-s-87kg-stream

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ScreamingMeMe · 02/08/2021 16:55

[quote PronounssheRa]Might have been mentioned before but the naughty corner of MN has its own dedicated twitter monitor account.

77 followers Grin they have been avidly following this thread. 👋

mobile.twitter.com/mumsnetfemboard/status/1422194299870007300[/quote]
What a sad life.

WarriorN · 02/08/2021 16:37

*Tiktok

WarriorN · 02/08/2021 16:36

They also seem to spend a lot of time concerned with other ideals of fashion and make up tik tick etc.

Serious athletes have no time for all the stuff that's entailed with aiming for Olympic dreams.

Also, huge amounts of sport and possibly outside fresh air and vit D is likely to support mental health which may well avert / support / help dysphoria. There's been many studies in the impact of sports and exercise on the developing hippocampus, an area of the grain that's developing in teen years and helps with rationality, overriding childish outbursts from the amygdala etc.

Also, sheep studies (which are studied as their brains are closest to ours when developing apparently) show that PBs actually inhibit the hippocampus.

PronounssheRa · 02/08/2021 16:32

Might have been mentioned before but the naughty corner of MN has its own dedicated twitter monitor account.

77 followers Grin they have been avidly following this thread. 👋

mobile.twitter.com/mumsnetfemboard/status/1422194299870007300

NecessaryScene · 02/08/2021 15:46

The main problem would be potentially incentivising individuals to go down that puberty blocker path in the belief that it would theoretically let them compete.

Even if there was no chance of them unfairly competing with women, you don't want to give children yet another fantasy about what these drugs could achieve.

EdgeOfACoin · 02/08/2021 15:41

@WarriorN

Doesn’t this inadvertently make an argument for puberty blockers though?

Bone density issues, endocrine issues and stunted growth could potentially make athletic competition a pipe dream.

This. I find it hard to imagine that anyone who has spent years on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones would be in a position to compete against the healthiest athletes. If they have also undergone significant surgery on their genitals, I imagine that would also take a toll on their physical health.
merrymouse · 02/08/2021 15:37

Doesn’t this inadvertently make an argument for puberty blockers though?

No, because the arguments against puberty blockers are completely different.

CharlieParley's Fri 30-Jul-21 17:06:58 Post on this thread is very informative on the problems with GnRH analogues.

The fact that male puberty confers physical advantages doesn't make Puberty Blockers more safe or mean that the science exists to enable somebody to change sex.

Datun · 02/08/2021 15:36

Good, it's so insulting.

People watch women's sport to celebrate outstanding female athletes. Not rubbish male athletes.

Here we are again, providing a bloody service.

TedImgoingmad · 02/08/2021 15:24

Oh thanks, Kevin. I have a Dougal moment at least once a day reading these pages.

WarriorN · 02/08/2021 15:14

Doesn’t this inadvertently make an argument for puberty blockers though?

Bone density issues, endocrine issues and stunted growth could potentially make athletic competition a pipe dream.

KevinBaconsJeans · 02/08/2021 15:06

@LunaNorth if I'd been drinking, that would have been a spit take Grin

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 02/08/2021 15:05

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KevinBaconsJeans · 02/08/2021 15:05

@TedImgoingmad I don't expect young athletes to speak out but it's disappointing when they speak against their own interests. Her silver would be a bronze if Hubbard was in shape.

Also, love your name Grin

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 02/08/2021 15:05

@Bryonyshcmyony

Apparently they are looking at the system after the Olympics to make sure it upholds "everyone's rights"

If that means women's rights I'll be amazed

Everyone but women
thinkingaboutLangCleg · 02/08/2021 15:04

Doesn’t this inadvertently make an argument for puberty blockers though?

I don't think it would be successful though, Broccoli. People are horrified by the use of experimental drug treatments on healthy children, and resistance to that is growing as more people become aware of what's been going on.

WarriorN · 02/08/2021 15:04

Yeah, but at least we got a head tilt and heart hands at the end.

Oh god, really?

Congratulations to the GB silver winner, Emily Campbell!

LunaNorth · 02/08/2021 14:58

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Feelingoktoday · 02/08/2021 14:56

Hubbard achieved what Hubbard wanted. A place at the olympics. It wasn’t about winning it was about acceptance and breaking barriers. Now the barrier has been broken it will happen again and again. BMX, cycling, rowing, running. This time they will win. Believe they lost on purpose. There is no way they got to the olympics and performed so poorly. It’s a game and a show and they have won.

Bryonyshcmyony · 02/08/2021 14:54

Apparently they are looking at the system after the Olympics to make sure it upholds "everyone's rights"

If that means women's rights I'll be amazed

TedImgoingmad · 02/08/2021 14:53

No, she competed for Tonga. She did OK, certainly better than Hubbard.

Only because she had a special invitation from the IOC following the Hubbard selection controversy. And, I suspect, only because she is an ethnic minority from a poor country being pushed out by an extremely rich, while male born person. It was not a good look for the IOC in the run up to an already difficult Olympics. They are not going to do that every time a TW takes a woman's place.

ShagMeRiggins · 02/08/2021 14:47

@ItsSnowJokes

I have come to the conclusion we do desperately need a third category. It should only be for XX chromosomes and we can call it the women's category.
Or take a page from extreme sports and call it the XX Games
ShagMeRiggins · 02/08/2021 14:45

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

A young woman from an ethnic minority lost her opportunity at the Olympics for someone born male now in their 40's to do that? Talk about adding insult to injury.
Yeah, but at least we got a head tilt and heart hands at the end. Hmm
Bryonyshcmyony · 02/08/2021 14:44

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

A young woman from an ethnic minority lost her opportunity at the Olympics for someone born male now in their 40's to do that? Talk about adding insult to injury.
No, she competed for Tonga. She did OK, certainly better than Hubbard.
littlbrowndog · 02/08/2021 14:41

Emily silver. 💪💪🥂

TedImgoingmad · 02/08/2021 14:39

@MrsOvertonsWindow

She'd be cancelled if she dared speak the truth TedImgoingmad .
She could just say nothing. This is from a BBC Sport article posted this morning:

Britain's Emily Campbell, another who will compete against Hubbard in Tokyo, said in 2018:"I believe everybody should be able to do something they love and she qualified in her own right like the rest of us girls.

"Everyone has been very opinionated about it but I think everyone is kind of forgetting about her feelings."

I'm very pleased for her and her silver medal is a fantastic achievement, but she's helping to throw other women under the bus with remarks like that.

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