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The BBC has quoted Fallon Fox

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PamDenick · 02/08/2021 10:14

Just watching BBC news. They interviewed Fallon Fox who stated that there is no scientific advantage for a transitioned mtf athlete in women’s sports!
This is just so wrong!

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CrossPurposes · 02/08/2021 11:20

Oh snap.

CrossPurposes · 02/08/2021 11:19

The programme is still airing on BBC Two so you can rewind on iPlayer (or on your smart tvs) to the appropriate time.

Jaysmith71 · 02/08/2021 11:18

Here:

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcnews?rewindTo=current

Mollyollydolly · 02/08/2021 11:18

Where was the Fallon Fox quote ..cant find it.

Jaysmith71 · 02/08/2021 11:13

Presenter is Victoria Fritz:

mum2jakie · 02/08/2021 11:11

@KittenKong

Dehumanising in what way though?
Presumably because the Fair Play to Women rep gave such a clear argument, including everything about the impact of male puberty and the massive difference in the age of the average women competitors and the transgender athlete. Dehumanising indeed!! Hmm
cariadlet · 02/08/2021 11:09

@mum2jakie Really helpful. Thank you

KittenKong · 02/08/2021 11:09

Dehumanising in what way though?

mum2jakie · 02/08/2021 11:07

@cariadlet information above is for you. I still can't find the presenter's name but I submitted my complaint without it.

mum2jakie · 02/08/2021 11:05

It's live on BBC News showing on BBC Two. Female presenter. Article started at 10.22. Comment made at 10.27. "Sounds pretty dehumanising. It's about sex and not about feelings."

I've submitted a formal complaint about biased coverage to the BBC.

DeeCeeCherry · 02/08/2021 11:04

You can cancel your TV Licence in 2 minutes online

www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/cancellations-and-refunds-top7#cancelorrefund

& A complaint telling them why is a great idea. Tweet them, too.

I cancelled my TV licence 4 years ago. I don't find BBC and their nonsense necessary. I have Netflix and Amazon Prime for occasions I feel like watching something, online boards for news etc

Nothing to say on Fallon Fox that hasn't been said already, aside from I've always said this person enjoys beating up women, and hearing that BBC have given them a platform with a positive slant, I'm even more glad I don't have a TV licence.

PamDenick · 02/08/2021 11:02

Please complain.

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Ninkanink · 02/08/2021 10:57

@hella ah right, thanks for clarifying.🌻

KittenKong · 02/08/2021 10:56

To (Mis)quote Mandy Rode Davis “...would say that wouldn’t...” did they mention FF ending the career if a woman competitor who didn’t know their background before she entered the ring?

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 02/08/2021 10:53

I've had to keep repeatedly coming off Mumsnet this week, the threads on here have made me so upset and angry at what is being done to women and how things have gone backwards so rapidly. It gets too much at times.

I hate the feeling of helplessness. The BBC really can get to fuck, the standard of journalism is shocking these days. They don't give a shit about women. The only thing that makes me feel better is praying that in years to come we can drag out all of these examples of disgusting 'journalism' that go completely against biological reality and common sense and we can laugh at the idiots responsible.

Ribboning time. With 'Laurel Hubbard is a MALE CHEAT' written all over them.

Floisme · 02/08/2021 10:51

Do we know the presenter's name?

Helleofabore · 02/08/2021 10:50

@Ninkanink

Didn’t Fox say something about ‘eggshell skulls’? Or was that someone else.

The BBC are truly despicable.

I know J Fae uses that term.
cariadlet · 02/08/2021 10:49

What channel was it on and what time? I'd like to try and watch it on I-player and then complain to the BBC.

mum2jakie · 02/08/2021 10:48

@Floisme

the BBC presenter said 'That was dehumanising wasn't it?' The BBC presenter said that? The BBC? I just want to make sure I've got this correct.
Yep - "pretty dehumanising, isn't it?" was her opening comment when introducing the opposing 'argument'. So biased it's unbelievable
Floisme · 02/08/2021 10:46

the BBC presenter said 'That was dehumanising wasn't it?'
The BBC presenter said that?
The BBC?
I just want to make sure I've got this correct.

Jackgrealishscurtains · 02/08/2021 10:45

For anyone who doesn't know, this is what Fallon Fox has said on Twitter before now.

The BBC has quoted Fallon Fox
FloralBunting · 02/08/2021 10:41

Dr Nic Williams was cogent and clear, and the BBC presenter didn't even give her the courtesy of a goodbye, they just cut straight to a TW and the BBC presenter said 'That was dehumanising wasn't it?' and gave the TW a lead in to just grandstand about the idea of women's sport being based on bodies being about treated people like cells in a petri dish. Then a subsequent string of gentle questions and the TW allowed to ramble through buzzwords for ages.

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour from the BBC. I thought they might have tried to gloss over Hubbard, but they're going all out to shit all over women. I'm still horrified at the presenter's comments.

PamDenick · 02/08/2021 10:39

And it’s pretty easy to cancel your licence fee.

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PamDenick · 02/08/2021 10:38

It’s very easy to put in a complaint to the BBC.

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Ninkanink · 02/08/2021 10:37

I have been meaning to stop paying the tv license for so long now. The only reason I haven’t yet done so is that I can’t be bothered with the hassle of their heavy-handed enforcers. But I can no longer in good conscience support the BBC in any way, shape or form.

I haven’t watched television in several years, at all. And I never will again. So I’m cancelling.