Five trustees quit Vegan Society after a row about amid allegations of institutional racism and transphobia

Yes, pretty much what korawick12345 said. To be fair it's definitely not always the case that they're connected everywhere, but there are plenty of people who are just jumping on whatever bandwagon is going with whom it's impossible to have any open conversation. Though there are also leaders in the charity sector who haven't thought enough about this before and are now either out of their depth and highly repentant and grovelling (I've seen mainly women in this category) or completely ignoring it (more men) so it's a mess from both ends.

"The "queer" thing has been linked in with racism in lots of cases, which isn't helping if you want to challenge racism but can't buy into queer and gender identity."

Can you explain this a bit further @TabbyStar? how are they connected?

Especially PETA!

Christ on a bike. No wonder people think vegans are all pathetic snowflakes! Cultural appropriation?! Where is the cultural appropriation in reducing your meat intake for your health, for the planet and for animal suffering? Are we supposed to just live off plain beans, rice and veg? Mad, completely mad. It is actually possible (far fetched though it may seem) to be vegan and not a delusional idiot.

The articles seem very different. One painting a picture of genuine racism in which case this thread isnt very nice.

It does seem likely that there is genuine racism and probably other issues as well, as there are in all charities, I've seen some charities working constructively together to address racism and similar, and others descend into accusations and counter-accusations and people being too scared to speak from all angles. Most people are somewhere in the middle and able to have constructive conversations, but others have extremes on both ends and just become paralysed and acrimonious. The "queer" thing has been linked in with racism in lots of cases, which isn't helping if you want to challenge racism but can't buy into queer and gender identity. It needs people with enough life experience and emotional maturity to steer a path through, but it might be a while before this happens.

Agh posted too soon.
I wouldn't take any vegan organisation as representative of vegans. They tend to attract an extreme element.
We're mostly normal people who eat grains and tofu.

Alfonso, I would tak

All I learnt from the "exclusive" article in The Vegan Review and the resignation letter was that the former vice chair is disabled, queer, black and from a working class background.

Did you know that the former vice chair is disabled, queer, black and from a working class background?

In case I didn't make it clear before, the former vice chair is disabled, queer, black and from a working class background.

I am all for animal welfare, which is why I rarely eat meat but there is no way I could become a vegan if it meant being represented by The Vegan Society, even if the former vice chair is disabled, queer, black and from a working class background.

The articles seem very different. One painting a picture of genuine racism in which case this thread isnt very nice.

I got about a quarter of the way through that letter. It’s a masterpiece of self-victimising woke bullshit. I’m sure the Vegan Society is devastated to have seen the back of that individual.

The British Left really is completely & permanently fucked if that 🤡 is representative of its young activists.

Here's the actual resignation letter. This person has gone full Titania McGrath.

Is it just me who got stuck at a giant cleavage shot in that second article?

Nearly, though I wish I had because I feel none the wiser having read all of it!

Is it just me who got stuck at a giant cleavage shot in that second article?

From the article
'Zuri's resignation letter states they had been 'naive' joining the council in 2019 as a 'multiply marginalised trustee, being black, queer, disabled and working class'

She really is trying to win protected characteristics top trumps isn't she.

I think ‘activist’ is a career now. It’s all you need on your CV to get doors to open.
That and 'influencer'
Beam me up Scotty.

Zuri said they resigned before their motion for the charity to join the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign in support of Palestine was put to vote, but they believe it will fail as they are already “being labelled as anti-semitic”.

Pushing special interests like above, it's no wonder there was friction. I have special interests too, but I wouldn't push them on a group meant to represent all vegans.

So they have fluffy it has been pointed out in reports eg:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/vegans-exempt-compulsory-covid-vaccines-workplace-b948403.html%3famp

I did pick out that someone used the n-word, which is totally out of order. And their hiring processes were probably discriminatory? But they have taken steps to address this but they're not satisfactory?

I dunno, I think I'm coming down with a headache so that might be affecting my reading comprehension.

Absolutely hilarious. The website of the ex chair is a masterpiece of word salad. The ex chair seems to think they are an 25 year old expert in pretty much everything you can think of despite not really having any real skills, qualifications or experience.

The level of self indulgence is unbelievable

I can't make head nor tail of that article.
I do find it disappointing as a vegan though, as v society usually take a moderate view.
I don't like being lumped in with gender ideology though. Me and husband are both vegan and GC. We just are vegan for ethical reasons and it's right and possible for us to live vegan lives.