James Esses taking legal action against Metanoia Institute

The Metanoia Institute has a research group - this is one of their strands. Why does this kind of open questioning not apply to gender? I'm very interested to see their arguments - is this about the Memorandum and conversion therapy. I thought we were awaiting legislation.

Religion and Spirituality Research Group
Research in the area of religion and spirituality has grown considerably over the last few decades and is becoming an increasingly important area for therapeutic practitioners to pay attention to in their clinical work. It has been well documented that religion and spirituality can be positive indicators of mental health, as well as triggers for mental distress (King 2013; Dein et al. 2013). This research group therefore provides a space to foster and support research in this area, including a forum to share research ideas, methodologies, and papers as well as supporting researchers to develop confidence and competence in this field

From website,
"Metanoia Institute has provided high-quality training in the psychological therapies for more than 30 years. We offer part-time, university validated undergraduate and postgraduate courses in Counselling, Psychotherapy and Counselling Psychology and allied programmes in Coaching, Creative Writing for Therapeutic Purposes, Organisational Development and Therapeutic Fostering.

Our Vision, Mission and Ethos
Vision
Excellence in counselling, counselling psychology, applied psychology and psychotherapy.

Mission 2015-2020
To offer teaching, training and lifelong learning of the highest quality.
To provide students with a theoretical and practical framework on which to base a professional and ethical practice in their chosen area of work.
To enhance the Institute's reputation for excellence in practice-based research and scholarship.
To offer practitioner training within a supportive and inclusive environment.
To provide accessible and effective educational and clinical services to the wider community.
To develop a research active culture. (continues)

Standards and Quality
Our professional training programmes lead to registration with the appropriate regulatory bodies, BACP, UKCP, HCPC and BPS. This means that our training programmes are monitored annually and re-accredited every five years.

Our academic standards and quality are monitored not only by the bodies mentioned above, but also by our validating higher education organisation Middlesex University. Each year our students who are taking optional academic qualifications are taken to academic boards where their training achievements are ratified and academic credits awarded.

Middlesex University also appoints external examiners to our courses to ensure that our training programmes meet required academic standards and are equivalent to other university undergraduate and postgraduate courses and CPDs."

www.metanoia.ac.uk/about/policies-and-procedures/

And this is an organistion training psychotherapists to do what? Ignore evidence based approaches and conform unquestioningly to an ideology?

I'm also looking forward to the Metanoia institute explaining to the courts exactly how someone legally involving themselves in a thoughtful and civil manor with British politics with the clear aim of safeguarding children and opening a very important debate about a proposed piece of legislation that if rushed or poorly worded will cause serious harm to those it intends to help could be seen to bring the institute into disrepute🤔 and that's before anyone mentions his legally protected beliefs

This is what I dont get.

Between the keira Bell case where a judge ruled that under 16s can't consent to treatment.

The release of the Tavistock own study showing that PBs did nothing to improve the mental health of the children.

Just what is it that they are basing all this on?

Are they openly advertising they are going against the nhs, the Tavistock and court judgments?

Would there not be legal ramifications for this?

Well I'm looking forward mermaids supporting childline explaining to the courts (with evidence based on fact) why an affirmation based approach is not only the best way to treat children but the only way. I mean surely they have some kind of proof that watchful waiting is harmful (having been through it myself I can tell you that it did me a world of good while affirmation therapy would have done nothing to help me deal with the horrific abuse I suffered or my autism) and not just mermaids bs statistics right 🤔
I'm also looking forward to the Metanoia institute explaining to the courts exactly how someone legally involving themselves in a thoughtful and civil manor with British politics with the clear aim of safeguarding children and opening a very important debate about a proposed piece of legislation that if rushed or poorly worded will cause serious harm to those it intends to help could be seen to bring the institute into disrepute🤔 and that's before anyone mentions his legally protected beliefs.

Brave man. I cant believe someone can be kicked out a counselling type gig for not encouraging kids to hate their bodies.

I also wish these people would just stop and think for a second. Has he done anything witg children/patients that warrants concern?

People with all sorts of opinions and thoughts etc work in all sorts if jobs. Ut doesn't necessarily transpire that that will be the focus of any discussion or that they will.leave the session having been forced forced take on one specific sets of beliefs.

In fact there's only one side who refuses to even look at any other option and is hell bent on one course of action only. And its not this guys side.

OP loveyouradvice wrote,

"AIBU to be shocked that the NSPCC cancelled their Facebook Live session with Mumsnetters, because they didn't like the questions? That they can't explain why they aren't putting children in danger?

I am reeling from this - Mumsnet promoted a Facebook Live for Thursday 12.30... to talk about keeping Kids safe from Abuse, and to publicise their PANTS and SpeakOut StaySafe campaigns.

NSPCC just didn't turn up - and only 4 hours later published a brief statement that said nothing!!!! So lots of people waiting for a no show.

It is fine for them to have the policies they have - IF THEY CAN EXPLAIN that they really are in all children's best interests and that they aren't putting girls at risk..... They haven't even tried to do that... Just ignored us and run. Ignored MUMSNET - which is full of people who raise or give money to the NSPCC, and who use it.

HOW??? I am bewildered beyond words.....

Oh ... and hopefully clicky link here of the questions Mumsnetters asked - really thoughtful cogent ones!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_facebook_live/a3343961-Facebook-Live-about-talking-to-kids-about-staying-safe-from-abuse-with-NSPCC "

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3353658-AIBU-to-be-shocked-that-the-NSPCC-cancelled-their-Facebook-Live-session-with-Mumsnetters-because-they-didnt-like-the-questions-That-they-cant-explain-why-they-arent-putting-children-in-danger

Just seen this, well done James 👏

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LGB Alliance shared his story on their Facebook page earlier this morning 🥕

He's a former barrister. I imagine he's pretty good at assembling a decent case.

So trying to Safeguard evidence-based therapy for children struggling with gender dysphoria would damage an organisation’s reputation. Must have a pretty weird reputation.

the NSPCC terminated his position calling it an 'inappropriate personal campaign.'

This from the charity with statutory power who saw nothing wrong with an employee wearing a gimp suit, masturbating in the toilets and uploading the video for further consumption. And complained at the criticism levelled at them calling it homophobic.

not shocked.

This University will be embarrassed eventually. Will this be the first testing of the Forstater ruling?

He appealed to Childline's directors and to the chief executive of its umbrella charity, the NSPCC, but his appeal was rejected.

An NSPCC spokesman said: 'Volunteers cannot give the impression that Childline endorses their personal campaigns.'

Last night Prof Weston of the Metanoia Institute said: 'When he was a student Mr Esses made a series of public pronouncements.

'In doing so he brought the institute into disrepute and made his position on the course untenable.'

Kicked off his course and off Childline for holding a belief which is now protected by law.

This should be interesting.

He's calling the current climate a watershed moment and he's right.

The public should know he launched an online petition in May called 'Safeguard evidence-based therapy for children struggling with gender dysphoria' and the NSPCC terminated his position calling it an 'inappropriate personal campaign.'

This from the charity with statutory power who saw nothing wrong with an employee wearing a gimp suit, masturbating in the toilets and uploading the video for further consumption. And complained at the criticism levelled at them calling it homophobic.

I seem to remember other people being concerned about the lack of boundaries from trans affirming Childline volunteers too.

Meanwhile, the way some fellow Childline counsellors were handling calls caused him alarm.

He felt they didn't explore properly why children were unhappy with their gender.

Instead, they simply 'affirmed' their belief to be transgender.

Mr Esses said: 'They would just go through the motions of affirming their transition with no form of exploration whatsoever.

Digging.

From James’ Twitter thread just now:

The last few months have been extremely challenging for me but I will never stop fighting for what is important. Educational institutes must be held to account when they deny free speech to their students. Thank you all in advance. James (6/6)

mobile.twitter.com/JamesEsses/status/1421730357959868417