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Wales going LGB+ woke

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Shedbuilder · 29/07/2021 10:23

I love Wales. I lived there for too few years. Now I see the BBC is reporting that Mark Drakeford wants Wales to be the best place in the UK for LGB+ people:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57986732

It's not entirely clear whether they're implementing their plan or consulting on it. It looks disastrous: they're planning to ban anything that could be described as conversion therapy. Just when Scandinavia, England and other progressive European countries start to open their eyes to the abuse of young people inherent in affirmation-only guidance, Wales intends to go full-tilt for affirmation-only. Anything to be more progressive than England. Like New Zealand and Canada: so in love with the idea of looking progressive that they're prepared to sacrifice women's rights on the altar of woke.

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Rhannion · 29/07/2021 22:51

ni fydd menywod yn dawel is WomenWontWheest in welsh ( I hope that’s ok)

Olderbadger1 · 29/07/2021 19:24

Response from LGB Alliance to the Welsh Government's LGBTQ Action Plan: twitter.com/ALLIANCELGB/status/1420679700687605762

They point out that lesbians appear to have gone AWOL, that LGB Alliance Cymru were not consulted, and that the list of protected characteristics omit sex.

Seems that Welsh Government have unilaterally decided that women don't need the protections of the Equality Act. Well we've had them for over a decade wimbots, that's clearly enough pandering.

Chersfrozenface · 29/07/2021 18:03

@DdraigGoch

I might start a campaign for independence for North Wales. We can have a capital in Caernarfon or Machynlleth, well away from the lunatics down south.
Sadly I don't think that would make much difference, Plaid Cymru is mainly full on woke, of the Labour MSs at least Hannah Blythyn and Lesley Griffiths are too, the councillors on Bangor town council elected the non-binary Owen Hurcum mayor.

And that's just the stuff I know about (I live down South).

Olderbadger1 · 29/07/2021 15:33

Merched Cymru have said they'll publish guidance re the consultation in September - maybe if lots of us respond it might make a small dent.

www.facebook.com/MerchedCymru

Olderbadger1 · 29/07/2021 15:29

Statement from Merched Cymru. Sounds about as dire as I thought it might be.
merchedcymru.wales/2021/07/29/welsh-government-commits-to-end-womens-sex-based-rights/

peardropscent · 29/07/2021 12:24

That's quite common and it seems likely from various things I've heard that correspondence on this issue to MSs and MPs is very often filtered out by woke brigade staff.

peardropscent · 29/07/2021 12:21

That's exactly what I thought. The abuse this young man experienced is vile, but it's not state-sanctioned discrimination like Section 28 or preventing gay marriage. What can a Government plan do about that? If anything, this continuous atomisation of identities just 'others' groups even more.

lionheart · 29/07/2021 11:56

Consultation process:

gov.wales/lgbtq-action-plan

FlyPassed · 29/07/2021 11:55

@MoonlightApple the baroness advises to write "i have written to [important person] to inform them that i have contacted you about my concerns". So, if you're writing to your police and crime commissioner write to your mp and tell them both you've written to the other. It seems to carry more weight but i haven't tried it

DdraigGoch · 29/07/2021 11:50

I might start a campaign for independence for North Wales. We can have a capital in Caernarfon or Machynlleth, well away from the lunatics down south.

MoonlightApple · 29/07/2021 11:44

I have written to Drakeford many times on this type of issue and he never replies. I’m not really sure what else to do.

Gingercake2018 · 29/07/2021 11:44

I think the new Welsh curriculum is set up to go full woke, and I will be watching it with careful interest.

However, I think the general population in outlying areas of Wales always seems to be several decades behind on these sorts of things. Which can only be a positive with regards to drakeford wokeness.

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Shedbuilder · 29/07/2021 11:35

Yes, and suddenly they've rolled out a gay man to front things and conceal the fact that this is all about the TQ+.

Does it never occur to those in power that a rise in attacks on LGB individuals may be because people are so generally pissed off with trans and gender ideology nonsense?

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InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 29/07/2021 11:19

This is classic Denton's playbook, isn't it?

A bunch of commendable policies, with gender identity sneaking in via the small print.

DoormatBob · 29/07/2021 11:08

Never have grasped how this is linked to LGB/sexuality.

Helleofabore · 29/07/2021 11:02

That is rather concerning shedbuilder. This reminds me very much of the situation in Australia at the moment with devolved legislation around this issue.

On one hand you have some states such as Queensland, Victoria and the ACT (Canberra) who have brought in similar conversion therapy bans into their State legislation. On the other New South Wales gender clinicians have released a paper reporting that affirming only treatment is harmful to some patients.

Confusion reigns as there is no central government position and it seems some of the very hard questions go unasked in the name of kindness.

littlbrowndog · 29/07/2021 11:01

Like Scotland as well 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

lionheart · 29/07/2021 10:59

Just been looking at this (posted by the LGBA):

gov.wales/sites/default/files/consultations/2021-07/lgbtq%2B-action-plan.pdf