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Jessica Alves talks about a womb transplant.......

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RVN123 · 27/07/2021 12:06

You probably know of this trans person, has been in the media a LOT due to plastic surgery etc.
Has recently transitioned. Was in the press a few days ago saying they could not wait to lose their 'virginity' with a man, and now is hoping for a 'womb transplant'.
Do you think this will ever be possible? My thinking is (hopefully) not. Too many hurdles to overcome (synthetic hormones, anti rejection drugs, pelvis wrong shape, no way to give birth naturally, how to replicate changing hormones during a pregnancy etc ).
Is that all it takes now to be a woman? A plastic surgeon and shoving in a donated uterus? Makes me feel deeply uneasy, I pray no ethics committee will ever allow this to happen.
Its all a bit Frankensteinian.
Thoughts?

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RVN123 · 27/07/2021 12:26

It all sounds SO selfish to me. "I WANT a baby/ to feel like a real woman / to be validated etc so this is how I will do it". NO consideration at all for the child, their safety, the implications for them and their long term health and mental well being. Just pure selfishness.

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InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 27/07/2021 12:25

@nauticant has it exactly right. It's all about the Overton window.

Keepemguessing · 27/07/2021 12:18

None of these people seem to give a shit about the women who would supply these spare wombs.

Funny that.

nauticant · 27/07/2021 12:17

It is about trying to change how people think by assuming a medical horror is a run-of-the-mill thing just round the corner. It's Overton Window stuff, not science.

nauticant · 27/07/2021 12:16

My traditional cut and paste of what I wrote before:

This business of uterine transplants into men appears to be about science but it is not. It's about getting the idea out there that men can give birth too, but not just yet, there are a few technical details to be sorted out first. So while we're waiting for the inevitable, let's get on with the social sciences side of things and accept that since men can give birth too (not yet, but soon, soon, it's bound to happen), then there are no real differences between men and women in terms of things that are material and significant, they're just bodies with an interchangable set of parts. The actual differences are surface ones like the chosen forms of appearance.

YoungWerther · 27/07/2021 12:14

Not going to happen. A woman makes a baby with her whole body, not just her womb.

GrimDamnFanjo · 27/07/2021 12:12

I don't think it would ever work, let alone the ethical issues it obviously presents.