Jessica Alves talks about a womb transplant.......

As a type 1 diabetic from aged 1, at about 40 years old, my consultant mentioned a pancreas transplant.

But I'd have to have 6 to 9 months of steroids, immunosuppressants and allsorts of other tablets in preparation for surgery.

then a pancreas time would have to be found. then I would be on drugs and steroids and pills post surgery, for the rest of my life.

plus she said at that time the average expectancy of the pancreas transplant was 10 years. that would've only taken me to 50. so not have to have another one, would I be offered one on the nhs?

and then another one at 60? and another one at 70 another at 80?

so they're suggesting I have four or five pancreas transplants in my lifetime?

what a load of rot!!

It’s concerning that surgeons are quite happy for people to be their experiments who obviously have issues

Soon Jessica will want to be someone else. Rodrigo wanted to look like a Ken

Jessica is completely deluded

I'm firmly of the belief for a lot of transgender people being trans is not so much about 'being a woman' or 'being a man', far more about 'not being a man' or 'not being a woman'.

I think in JAs case “being a woman” is a way to open up a whole new avenue of plastic surgery opportunities.

I worry for people like this, surely there is only so many operations a body can comfortably tolerate, the surgeons really ought to be prosecuted.

If someone who wants children cannot conceive by conventional means, there are children out there who need parents. But perhaps parenthood with all its self-sacrifice and unconditional love is not the ultimate goal here; pregnancy is!

In the UK, children are the main focus of adoption, not parents, and I feel this is as it should be. The extensive checks you have to go through to be approved to adopt would surely - surely - rule out somebody with serious mental health challenges around accepting their body as it is. It can't be healthy for a child to grow up in a household where the adoptive parent is constantly planning their next cosmetic surgery.

As for this, if any ethics committee anywhere in the world approves a proposal to implant a womb from a female donor, or grown in a lab, into a male body, with a view to seeing if that male can gestate a baby, that's the day I give up hope for the human race.

It might be possible to implant a uterus into the abdominal cavity of a male person and persuade the body to establish an adequate blood flow to the organ and the immune system not to reject it. Conceiving "naturally" isn't going to happen. That's a highly complex biological process and Ms Alves not producing eggs is a fundamental stumbling block. Growing a healthy baby to term in a donated womb in a male body also appears vanishingly unlikely.

What's the betting that Ms Alves feigns a pregnancy and claims to have given birth?

^^‘Pregnancy isn't fully understood, it's so complex. How are they going to replicate it in a male when they don't fully understand natural pregnancy in women?’

I bet they’d soon learn about women’s reproductive systems, quicker than you could imagine if this was their end goal. I bet we’d suddenly have so much more information about our bodies: endo; pregnancy; miscarriage; still births; menopause; peri…the research would be done (and in double quick time), because men would benefit (and they’d be money to be made).

I noticed some of the comments on the article referenced adoption, and asked why they didn’t adopt instead. We know why, but I’d also like to point out that many adoptive children have experienced so much trauma in their little lives…they should be absolutely no where near a situation where an individual requires constant attention, validation and procedures. I’m convinced this kind of individual would not pass the rigorous screening (not in this country anyway).

It’s a fantasy. We still don’t fully understand pregnancy otherwise they might be able to help more infertile women/prevent miscarriage more.

Do these people understand rne complexity of pregnancy? Of the delicate balance that is a pregnant woman’s body. The hormones pumping in her body at just the right time to support her child?

These people are narcissistic. The constant need for validation is telling. Grandiose narcissists need validation almost constantly. So you do the math.

What doctor would even do this? A man’s body is not made to carry a child.

It wouldn't be a transplant but an implant. It's an important distinction.

This person is extremely damaged and their supposed gender dysphoria and subsequent surgery is another drug to them. It's quite sad really.

I don't believe this will ever be physically possible thankfully.

Omg that rat thing is fucking disgusting and totally unethical. How can we justify seeing animals together for something that's so unnecessary. It's shocking

Hormonally I can't see it ever working, look at how many women who 'on paper' have the appropriate hormone balance but still fail to either conceive or carry a pregnancy to term.

However the point about pelvic shape I think would be less of an issue. I know of a young women who had 12+ hours on the operating table to reconstruct her pelvis after being hit by a train, and she has carried more than one pregnancy to term (or close enough). I assume she had a c section delivery but that's hardly a barrier to childbirth.

I always recommend this on threads about this Crowd science podcast on artificial wombs which also talks about womb transplants

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswvxh

It would mean implanting not just a uterus, but the attached vagina, fallopian tubes and ovaries, too, if a 'natural' conception and birth is to be even a remote possibility. Presumable these organs would have to be harvested from a young, healthy donor who has died by trauma that has not impacted her abdominal organs. 😥

Then there's the orchestration of the hormonal cycle, alongside the immunosuppression associated with conventional transplants, which this would not be. Every recipient of a transplant, be it liver, heart, kidney or cornea, was originally in possession of that organ, so all the connections and the properly shaped space are there waiting. This would be an implant; an extra organ that was never there and for which there are no connections.

The risk would be that the organs would just die and begin to rot, endangering the life of the recipient. It's a fantasy.

Medical science develops transplant technology to save lives, not to pander to fantasists.

If someone who wants children cannot conceive by conventional means, there are children out there who need parents. But perhaps parenthood with all its self-sacrifice and unconditional love is not the ultimate goal here; pregnancy is!

I'd be extremely concerned for the child
If this will ever happen.
Agree JA appears quite unwell

This. Aside from the obvious severe body dysphoria issues which have led to ever increasing amounts of plastic surgery, isn't this the same person who was asked to leave the Big Brother house for allegedly sexually assaulting a male contestant? www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/7233207/dan-osborne-reveals-the-real-reason-rodrigo-alves-was-kicked-out-of-celebrity-big-brother-and-admits-he-did-something-inappropriate-towards-him/

You can't implant a womb to a male body. Where would it go? What would it attach to? There is no existing support system for it so presumably it would degrade. Then you have a dying organ festering inside a male body. 🤢

Just looked this person up that’s a scary amount of surgery.

It won’t ever happen, even if someone does try it it wouldn’t work, but even if it did the resulting baby wouldn’t be theirs because the eggs would still have to come from a biological female.

What they want simply cannot be, and the sooner some people accept that the better.

Frightening.

Has JA ever said why they want to be a woman? What does being a woman mean?

What a world we live in where an individual like this, who clearly has serious mental health issues, is given platforms to pontificate from.

I do believe this will become very much the norm, very quickly. They are making medical breakthroughs rapidly. This group want this.
Makes me very sad indeed.

I very much doubt they can do this

They might be able to put in the womb but it wouldn’t do anything. Wouldn’t be able to sustain life or have a menstrual cycle.

If they really wanted a baby, they would adopt but no. They want to be able to have one to say they are a real woman

It’s not going to happen anytime soon, it’s simply not. Chinese scientists managed to get a male rat to give birth and less than 10% survived. This was with a live female rat surgically attached to the male as a constant supply of female blood is required.