Macmillan Cancer Support

That explanation is so fucking patronising!

“For example, we might explain that if you have had gender realignment surgery or are intersex, your body may be different in some ways to what we describe here”. You’d bloody hope so if someone has gone to all the trouble of having surgery that they’d be well aware of the differences in their body from someone who was born that way.

It’s so infantilising isn’t it. It just sounds like when adults are talking to young children and don’t want to upset them.

I won't give money to a charity that is a Stonewall Diversity Champion. Surely charitieis can see, given recent press and organisations distancing themselves from Stonewall, that this looks bad.

Seemingly they have money to splash around if they pay Stonewall all that money and don't need mine!

Assigned male at birth? Oh do bugger off...

Donate to your local hospital or refuge, or food bank or children’s charity.

Their testicular cancer page has been updated to include trans.

Excellent. Nothing wrong with inclusion as long as it doesn't exclude the majority.

Their testicular cancer page has been updated to include trans.

The fact that they are Stonewall champions is enough for me to find a woman friendly charity to donate to - does anyone have any suggestions?

I don't find that statement by Macmillan reassuring. Yes be inclusive but please don't erase the word woman because that is the very opposite of inclusive.

Look. I have just updated a whole sodding website and online store. Some terminology and all the prices had changed. It took me... 3 hours max (and that included collating all the data).

Do I need to go over there and show them how to do their job??

we weren’t able to update all our information as quickly as we would have liked and so we had already made changes in some areas, like the pages on cervical cancer, but not yet in others

... and most likely we wouldn't have bothered at all if it weren't for those pesky women pointing out the hypocrisy of using the word 'men' multiple times

That whole thing reads like a twisty word salad sprinkled with apology pander.

So is it women with cervical cancer or people? Men with prostate cancer or people?

Because of its men and women, they will displease their stonewall overseers...

"They are on a journey", bless.

MacMillan has released a statement

medium.com/macmillan-press-releases-and-statements/the-language-we-use-62db331c11c1

No reply yet.

“ Macmillan is a member of Stonewall’s Diversity Champions Programme” and can’t rule out using gendered intelligence in the future....

Nice to know where your donations are going!

I suspect different teams manage different aspects of the online media. The social media accounts do rent to be thrown at those who play to the gallery for some reason.

Great to see the change, suspect there’s still a huge imbalance between how often they use the word women compared to men

Did anyone get a reply from MacMillan? I haven’t

Well done MacMillan maybe all the emails worked ?

The Glinner Update has just highlighted the change from people to women too (along with some other very interesting items in general)

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/how-to-challenge-institutional-buffoonery?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copy

Wonder if SNP are taking note

This is promising!

Thanks - just changed my M&S charity to PDSA (felt it safe that they can't possibly be stonewalled although Dreamies cat treats packs are all Pride Year ones)

Hardly shop in M&S anyway but had forgotten about the charity part so at least it will be going to a charity that hopefully knows what male & female animals are

M&S is on the s*list so I don’t have a card! I just donate monthly to charities that ‘do good’. I also make sure that I interact with them on social media etc - so even when I gave ds’s old bike to a colleague and she wanted to pay is for it, I just said ‘please give a wee donation to XXX if you like’.

Just as an aside to people wanting to redirect donations to charities other than Macmillan, if you have a M&S Sparks card who is your nominated charity? When we got ours years ago there were few charities to choose from and we chose Macmillan. They seem to get the bulk of donations, so today my husband and I have changed our nominated charity to the Lifeboats who get a very meagre sum. There are now loads of charities to choose from.

Cancer Research erased women from their cervical cancer material and very publicly on twitter in 2018. I don’t know if it impacted donations but I know I haven’t donated to them since. CR have since quietly changed their wording to talk about the female reproductive system and women but I’d still prefer to donate to other causes due to how they treated women raising concerns about the wording at the time.
I’ll be looking to see how MacMillian respond to my email to decide whether last week was my last ever donation to them