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I want to create a meetup group for women but confused about pronouns/gender/inclusivity

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piddocktrumperiness · 23/07/2021 17:58

I'm thinking of setting up a group for women. A sort of women empowering women type of thing where there would be shared best practice be it in business, health, fitness, relationships, investing, personal growth and charity. I want it to be uniquely for women as I believe the lens is v different. I want it to be a safe space really too. I think men have had the advantage for many years through their clubs and networking circles that have marginalised many women.

Also it's the kind of group that I personally would like to be a part of.

It'll hopefully be a micro community of friends and wing women if needs be, social events with some structure too.

How do I do this without coming across as gender discriminatory because the gender/trans debate is so prolific and I'm finding it all v confusing

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piddocktrumperiness · 23/07/2021 18:53

I think it's sad that it is this complex if I'm honest.
I think it's sad that many cis men have these network circles, social clubs and years of advantage knowing that the incidence of transmen or women identifying as men joining their circles is v rare.

Not the other way around

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/07/2021 18:51

If you mean transwomen are not welcome, then say it.

It sounds like the OP wants a women only group.

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piddocktrumperiness · 23/07/2021 18:50

Not I'm not saying that, I'm just wondering if I want a group for women, that I may get men who self identify for example blurring the lines.

I do know only a couple of trans-women to be honest and respect that the trans community do have issues they want to deal with but I still think that they are unique to them and the LGBTQ+ community at large, and that issues that many cis women face and have historically faced because of their sex, are unique to cis-women.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/07/2021 18:50

I would suggest not going public with a group as it's difficult nowadays to make a public group then exclude people who aren't natal women. Instead, I would keep it low-key and just try to pick up people socially and organically so that it's simply a private friendship group.

Completely agree. Great advice.

Carrott21 · 23/07/2021 18:47

You just say women and take the shit for it and stand up for it.

Orf1abc · 23/07/2021 18:41

If you mean transwomen are not welcome, then say it.

Do you know any transwomen or are you making judgments based on what you've read on here?

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piddocktrumperiness · 23/07/2021 18:37

Thanks everyone!
I sensed it would be tricky :(
@ValancyRedfern Can I just use the term 'Women' in the name then? and call it something like "women empowering women" or something along the lines?

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ValancyRedfern · 23/07/2021 18:18

Do you mean on the meetup app? I've been to a few all female meetup groups and they seem to manage to exist without controversy. I think a small meetup groups isn't going to hit the twitterati unless a vocal tra decides to take it on as a cause. If I were you ide just set it up on meetup as a women's group and don't mention anything about how you're defining the term. Hopefully it won't come up as an issue. The group sounds great!

LonginesPrime · 23/07/2021 18:07

I want it to be uniquely for women as I believe the lens is v different. I want it to be a safe space really too

People will tell you that this isn't so and that no safe spaces are needed from male-bodied people.

It sucks, but I can't see any other way to make this work atm - not without putting yourself and your family in the firing line.

It's a shame as I'd love to join that kind of group too!

irresistibleoverwhelm · 23/07/2021 18:01

Unfortunately you will court a lot of controversy doing this, OP. Women are not allowed their own groups anymore. I wish it wasn’t like that, but it is.

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