I want to create a meetup group for women but confused about pronouns/gender/inclusivity

My road changes name half way down, there's an active Facebook group for people who live in the street with the other name. Will they let me join? Will they fuck! It's a bit annoying but entirely up to them as they run it.

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If you mean transwomen are not welcome, then say it

Do you have ANY idea whatsoever, just how vulnerable that would make piddocktrumperiness.

I cannot believe anyone would make such an ignorant suggestion. She may as well paint "punch me" on her forehead. (This is based on all the "punch a terf" memes out there, not some random comment).
OP is right to feel worried. Women have dead rats pinned to their door and worse, for wanting same sex anything.

Whatever you OP do, do not even mention it. The gender issue.

Just go with women only and brave it out.

Unfortunately absolutely everything with "women only" or "for women" or especially "lesbian" sends out a sort of bat signal to gender ideologists who will start harassing you and other members of the group about "inclusivity".

You could try saying "female women" or some such jargon but that'll probably make it worse.

Best just to give it your own shot, see what happens and don't put up with shit from gender ideologists.

Good luck!

Ahhh I did wonder Miss - and of course the local authority absolutely needed to ask that question 🙄🙄 heaven forbid women have something just for them….

It does not surprise me that it was Labour. Mind you, there was a wide field of possible contenders.

It's perfectly possible, OP. I'm a member of several women-only private groups where the person organising asks the sex of anyone who wants to join and simple blocks anyone who gets spluttery and argumentative. Maya's case established the fact that it's acceptable to believe in biology and two sexes and if you create a private group you can include and exclude whoever you want. Look at MN: it sets the rules and anyone who doesn't stick to them gets the boot. Women seem to have been cowed into a situation where their default setting is inclusivity but inclusivity isn't good for women and leaves them open to abuse. So decide on your rules, invite a few friends and acquaintances to join and if anyone starts whinging about why you're not welcoming transwomen say 'Because this is a group for female-sexed people. Transwomen have all kinds of other groups they can go to, but this is just for women to share their experience of being women and support others like them.' Don't engage with arguments because they don't argue, they just dodge.

😁 Labour 😀

Theeyeballsinthesky Yes. We have close links with local cllrs, as some are female they have have expressed interest in our group. It was not a formal council meeting but she had been invited to attend one of our weekly Empowerment sessions and she posed the question out of interest.

I didn't even touch on cost. We have free use of a church hall and meeting rooms.
We do not charge anything to attend. No subscription charges or entry charges. We do receive small amounts of funding from the lottery quite regularly and raise money at fundays.
We charge £1 for exercise classes as anybody can attend they do not have to be a member. We also run specialist sewing groups cake making jewelery making pottery classes etc which we charge for as we have to pay the instructors and artists.
Popular classes which we do not charge for we ask for a £5 deposit which is returned if all classes have been attended - so basically charged for not attending, wasting our time, taking a space somebody else could have used.

I still don’t and never will understand what it is to “live as a female” beyond wearing what is deemed to be women’s clothing & female stereotyped hair & make up

Missnevermind- do you mean a council member as in local cllr from the local authority?

Sorry, We are in the Midlands. The group has been running about 8 years. We have mostly Muslim women members so we are very protective of it being a women's only safe space.
Menbers find us by word of mouth or have attended one of our fundays. Mostly new members are introduced by a current member. We have to date not had to deal with a person not being born female wanting to join.
The consensus was at a group discussion with a council member that a person living as a female and living with female relationship/work issues / presented as a female at all times could be accepted as a member.
It is a little more clear cut as it is a religious / cultural issue as well. Not being in the presence of a male you are not related to by blood.

The first thing I'd say about meetup - it's not cheap these days and here in West Yorkshire your kind of group would take a while to get going. Have you the finances to fund the group yourself for a year?

They do do introductory offers at times or you can get adopted by another group as it's three for the price of one. eg I know someone who runs a social group to fund his language group.

We pay 6 monthly; it's slightly more expensive if you pay monthly. It's charged in dollars so it varies but works out around £90 every 6 months at the moment. We charge £1 an event, hold at least 2 events a month and in a non-pandemic year make enough to give the surplus to charity.

Social groups round here usually charge an annual sub. So you'd need 18 members willing to pay £10 then you have the hassle of collecting and chasing up.

I'm sounding gloomy but pre-pandemic women's social groups did ok round here. I've not heard of any TRA issues; the two transwomen I've met on meetup were not pushy. I can't imagine either of them going where they didn't feel wecome. meetup tends to not get involved with membership. If you remove a member they would have their work cut out to get any attention from meetup, Twitter is another matter.

If you have any more specific to meetup questions, feel free to private message me. I think if you aren't able to fund it yourself then a different platform will be better for you.

Is this the third thread now I two days on terminology that refers to inclusivity and uses the goady cs or am I being really cynical?*

Hmmm....sus here too...
Phishing for terms?

Is this the third thread now I two days on terminology that refers to inclusivity and uses the goady c*s or am I being really cynical?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4304155-Inclusive-terms-for-girls-women-and-people-who-identify-as-female?pg=1

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4301114-Collective-Noun?pg=1

I'd avoid any women's group that used the term "cis". I'd assume you didn't care very much about women at all.

On my local Facebook page one woman has just set up a ‘ladies’ group, they meet in the local pub every Wednesday afternoon, have tea and cake, and once a month will invite men so they can dance. 😳😳😳
I wonder what the demographic of that group will be?

“Cis” not ICS. Darn autocorrect!

If a description of a woman’s group used the term “ICS” I wouldn’t read any further.

The problem is that transactivists have stolen the word “woman” and attempted to redefine it as including natal men.

If you mean on the meetup platform then I organise a meetup group (hobby group, not women only) so I may be be to give you relevant info.

But I don't want to drone on if you mean meetup more generally or you already know lots about how meetup works.

I would join that!

Why not call your group a “gender critical feminist forum”? That should make it pretty clear that you don’t accept men or handmaidens in it!

The other thing to watch out for, apart from women who use ‘cis’ is women who have their pronouns in their social media profiles or email signatures - they’re more likely to believe in gender ideology & to push for a group to be mixed-sex.