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The difference between sex and gender in one photo

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OldTurtleNewShell · 22/07/2021 13:33

I'm sure that the news of the Norwegian women's handball team being fined for wearing shorts instead of the regulation (max 10cm) bikini bottoms has been covered elsewhere, but I've just seen this picture emerge and I think it perfectly encapsulates the differences between sex and gender.
It shows the male team next to the female team in their respective official uniforms.
Presumably, as these are the official teams, these are the top athletes in that field for each team. It's incredibly clear from the photo that the men's team consists of far taller and more muscular individuals than the women's (even though the women are all quite muscular).
There's the obvious sex difference right there.
And then, there's the uniforms. The women are required to wear tiny and revealing outfits (even when they object) that simply aren't applied to the men's team. And there's the gender.
If someone wanted to transfer from the female team to the male one, they'd be unlikely to qualify as they'd likely not be as powerful or tall as the men.
If someone wanted to transfer from the male team to the female one, they'd almost certainly qualify as they'd be more taller or more muscular than any of the female team.
And if the entire male team wanted to transfer to the female one (theoretically of course), then it's likely most of the existing female team would no longer qualify and there'd be no female team members across either team.
There'd just be two male teams, one of which wore bikini bottoms and one that wore shorts.
I really like this photo. I think it encapsulates the issues perfectly.

The difference between sex and gender in one photo
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Nachthex · 22/07/2021 13:45

I'm quite shocked seeing that photo: what possible objective reasons could be given for making the women play in those ridiculous things?

If a male team member decided to transition and played on the women's team, I guess he'd have to wear that get-up too. Hmm

sunnygemini · 22/07/2021 13:44

All very good points well made and a photo to evidence them.

WomaninBoots · 22/07/2021 13:43

And if they switched uniforms we would still be able tell which was the male team and which was the female team...

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/07/2021 13:42

Brilliant OP. Thanks, nailed it.

WineAcademy · 22/07/2021 13:41

Good analysis and observations.

Sex = why women are oppressed
Gender = how women are oppressed

PurpleHoodie · 22/07/2021 13:40

F' Hell!

I'm glad they stood their ground and paid the fines.

Arseholes, making them wear the skimpiest of knickers: the men can just concentrate on the physicality of hitting the ball, whilst the women have to constantly concentrate on their bum falling out, and their pictures being splashed around.

Sexist arseholes.

unwashedanddazed · 22/07/2021 13:39

But yes OP perfect example of sex and gender.

unwashedanddazed · 22/07/2021 13:38

I can't get my head around how they can legally force the women's team to wear these clothes. The blatant sex discrimination is infuriating.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 22/07/2021 13:36

Agreed OP - a great image to highlight the current sexism and lack of concern for women's sport being played out world wide.

DPotter · 22/07/2021 13:35

I totally agree with you. Sums it up to T