Frances Barber Under Attack From TRAs

I've seen too many tweets taken out of context to form too much of an opinion, personally.

In terms of the OP, it's an interesting one, because as far as I know, she is quite good friends with Ian McKellen. And, if I recall, he has supported Stonewall, quite recently. So them starring in the same play might make for some heated conversations. Not to mention informative...

She has been critical of trans ideology for some time. It's no secret. But now she might get the white hot glare of cancel culture turned on her, and I don't suppose for a second, that Ian McKellen would approve of that.

She is fuming, and more importantly, she doesn't appear to give a fuck. It seems to me to be a massive mistake to take her on, to be honest.

And she can't be fired, at least not legally. We now have the law on our side, thanks to Maya.

In fact I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most of the Twitter warriors don't give a crap about islamophobia, racism or mysogyny.

Why bring up the alleged islamophobia when it's just going to derail the thread and reframe it as a discussion of something else?

I personally don't know anything about FB, I'm certainly not lauding her if she has indeed made offensive comments in the past.

But it's nice to see a middle-aged woman standing up to the Twitter bullies for expressing a statement of biological belief...

And I've yet to see any of the rainbow social justice warriors go after some of the truly vile racist bullies that are so common on Twitter

But I personally wouldn't want to be associated with her comments in respect of Islam. So wouldn't openly laud her.

So by praising her response to this, someone is automatically associating themselves with her comments in respect to Islam? Bonkers. No wonder the world is the mess it is. You’re either all in or all out and be damned if you pick wrong.

If she has any sense she will have deleted them. I am also not your PA.

Make your own decisions.

You could argue that a movement that seeks to remove sex segregation of communal changing rooms in leisure centres (for example) is deeply islamophobic, because Muslim women in particular feel very uncomfortable about sharing such spaces where they may be in a state of undress with intact biological men

I remember a time when leisure centres would hold women-only sessions to enable women from minorities, who felt uncomfortable exercising with men, to use such facilities

Everything deserves to be read within the context of the discussion. If you can link me to the full tweet and associated replies I’ll happily give you my thoughts.

No it wasn't. He is vile and deserves everything that she will send his way. Everything.

But I personally wouldn't want to be associated with her comments in respect of Islam. So wouldn't openly laud her.

You can decide to do you.

I haven't read the alleged 'islamophobic' tweets.

I'm not sure why they are being brought up though, when it's obvious that the banker wasn't trying to cancel her for Islamophobia, was he?

I think the tweet about 'stop killing us' was ill judged, as many tweets are. I also think the people who will focus on it (not meaning those on this thread, mind, who have raised reasonable thoughts in response) don't give a flying fuck about Muslims and probably wouldn't touch the tweets by the unpleasant person with a sissy Muslim fetish who posts openly about it on Twitter.

Which tells me all I need to know about their genuine concern about Barber's unpleasantness. I'm sure she's a completely terrifying firecracker. I'm no shrinking violet, and I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of her. Jay picked the wrong woman to play patriarchy chicken with.

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@Abhannmor

I don't want this jerk to lose his boring job either. That would put us on the level of the bullies. Great to see someone fighting back though.

Im sick of this shit and I hope Francis sues him.

Actually, I don’t mind if this guy loses his job. He started it. And he clearly wanted her to lose her job. Don’t dish out what you can’t take.

He is the one who started harassing her for a legally protected belief. He is the one who has done wrong. She is just responding rather than lying down, rolling over and playing dead.

Jay Mann has brought the company he works for into disrepute. If Barclays have his actions covered in their social media policy, then he deserves to lose his job.

I have no idea, no intention of trolling her.

She needs to protect herself.

@Abhannmor

I don't want this jerk to lose his boring job either. That would put us on the level of the bullies. Great to see someone fighting back though.

His LinkedIn is hilarious. He sounds like he's virtually running Barclays and he's only five years out of university.

Quite a lot of Bunbury happening!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I stand with Frances Barber. And JK Rowling. And Maya.

No woman should lose her job because she believes sex matters.

I don't want this jerk to lose his boring job either. That would put us on the level of the bullies. Great to see someone fighting back though.

I love her response and support her with this issue. My opinion on her is that she is right on this issue, regardless of anything else.

No one is 100% right or wrong on everything. No one is perfect, no one is above reproach, no one is exempt from praise.

I’m not completely sure anyone is ‘backing’ any celebrity on here. It’s not a horse race. I suspect there’s some gratitude displayed when someone in the media spotlight says something that no one else dares vocalise that aligns with your own thoughts. That’s human nature.

I’m also not convinced about the Islamaphobia claim. I think it’s very common to dislike attributes without condemning the whole. Perhaps she doesn’t like the misogyny that goes along with many religious and cultural practices. Many don’t. She made the mistake of writing that down.

I didn't 'put words in your mouth'. I asked you a question

Personally I am failing to see what she has done that is so saintly.

Yes she supported JKR. cool.

I don't believe that she should be sacked for that at all.

Blatant islamaphobia however is indicative of how she chooses to behave. It isnt a belief, or centering women. It is nasty speech against a protected group and should rightfully be called out.

There are better horses to back.