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JKR takes on the victim blamers over the pornography tweeted at children

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OvaHere · 18/07/2021 10:35

I'm glad she's said this. It's despicable that TRA's subjected children to this in the first instance but even more so that they double down to blame the woman they targeted.

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1416680018416181248

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ArabellaScott · 19/07/2021 19:57

I think the pipe bomb threat maker is in the US?

Jackgrealishscurtains · 19/07/2021 19:56

Yes, I was wondering when pipe bomb bloke is going to be arrested under 'hate crime' laws?

I love the way that JKR is just slowly but surely pulling back the curtain on this, it's just perfect! With each new set of tweets I wonder how the likes of Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe are feeling about the way they threw her under the bus?

Selkiesarereal · 19/07/2021 19:49

Time for me to once again email my support to JKR. What a scary world I live in that I am too scared to do so Twitter given that I use my real name.

As for our other great Scottish feminist, Nicola Sturgeon, her silence is once again deafening, just as it was with Joanna Cherry. As fake as they come.

beastlyslumber · 19/07/2021 19:46

[quote Waitwhat23]@SheldonesqueTheBstard as a fellow Scot, I couldn't agree more. I have absolutely lost faith in this country.

There should be a bill board with a picture of Nicola and a quote of your words -

Death threats. Pipe bomb threats. Rape threats.

And you are silent.

Feminist? Are ye aye?[/quote]
I agree completely. I'm planning to leave Scotland. It's really fucking scary here these days.

beastlyslumber · 19/07/2021 19:44

Some idiot on twitter saying "now you have a taste of what trans people go through every single day."

GIVE. ME. A. FUCKING. BREAK.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/07/2021 19:16

oh my god, that is hilarious. I was torn between disgust and amusement the whole way through but I then I got to this bit and actually squeaked with laughter.

ACTUAL BRAVERY AND PERSEVERANCE. I guess they've moved on to the rest of the dictionary with self-ID now? A brave person is a person who praises their own bravery in a Twitter bio. A perseverant person is anyone who identifies as perseve...whatever.

Actual. bravery. And perseverance! Help me, it's too hot to laugh this hard.

I saw that! Sub Pink News reportage. Quoting Aiden Comerford, the Independent's film critic and Twitter troll Tom Gabion and pretending that no one actually supports JKR.

ArabellaScott · 19/07/2021 19:13

[quote Waitwhat23]@SheldonesqueTheBstard as a fellow Scot, I couldn't agree more. I have absolutely lost faith in this country.

There should be a bill board with a picture of Nicola and a quote of your words -

Death threats. Pipe bomb threats. Rape threats.

And you are silent.

Feminist? Are ye aye?[/quote]
Agree. Far from proud Scot here, too. Scotland the fucking grim, these days.

ArabellaScott · 19/07/2021 19:09

news.sky.com/story/jk-rowling-author-hits-back-after-receiving-pipebomb-death-threat-12359131

Sky reports.

The DM article comments are almost unanimously in favour of JK. As any sane person would be.

Hoping that at last people might start to see that the 'both sides' thing is bullshit.

Tesla73 · 19/07/2021 18:21

Getting traction on Youtube now

Just like the SF choir & library monkey this is another massive backfire for the "right side of history" - they've been free to act this way for so long, like nsughty children, that each day they go further over the top and more attention they gain ftom the "normies".

Especially now that all eyes will be on the TRA brigade with the Olympics starting along with its trans athletes

Cailin66 · 19/07/2021 18:09

@littlbrowndog

It’s really time Twitter stood up for women receiving death threats rape threats and porn

I mean really stood up and did something

It’s really time that sturgeon did the same thing as well

This is what gets me, how is it that twitter allows such vile pornographic tweets to stay up.
ScreamingMeMe · 19/07/2021 18:06

@Helleofabore

I think when people start talking about pipe bombs in mailboxes… I think we know that all those ‘look who you’re aligned with’ arguments will simply die away, yes???

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1417031300498829315?s=21

Everyone saying she ‘supported porn being posted’… you are ok with this tweet right?

Well, @PumpkinSpiceWoman ?
TheMarzipanDildo · 19/07/2021 18:04

Yes, where is everybody? BBC radio news earlier mentioned politicians condemning (rightly, of course!) racist abuse levelled at Lewis Hamilton. They similarly condemned the horrible racist shit some people online were coming out with following the World Cup.

Why can’t they condemn this? So much of it is obviously rooted in misogyny (I mean, she’s getting this “backlash” for speaking out against misogyny ffs) but honestly death threats are never OK whoever they’re aimed at.

What do Boris and the Tories have to lose, for instance? They’re surely not coveting the woke vote. Presumably they just don’t give a shit (seems a reasonable assumption really)

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 19/07/2021 18:03

Well, whoever it was - the person who made a pipebomb threat is an ally of yours.

Words are literal violence - unless they contain an actual mention of violence, in which case they are to be interpreted as a jolly jape or understandable exuberance of expression in a hyper-polarised social media environment.

TalkingOutYerArse · 19/07/2021 17:56

@allmywhat

If there’s any positive takeaway from Rowling’s latest dogpiling, it’s that those she targets get to show us what actual bravery and perseverance look like. The young trans man she retweeted has been keenly engaged in the ongoing conversation and now has in his bio, “the man the myth the legend behind THAT jkr tweet.”

oh my god, that is hilarious. I was torn between disgust and amusement the whole way through but I then I got to this bit and actually squeaked with laughter.

ACTUAL BRAVERY AND PERSEVERANCE. I guess they've moved on to the rest of the dictionary with self-ID now? A brave person is a person who praises their own bravery in a Twitter bio. A perseverant person is anyone who identifies as perseve...whatever.

Actual. bravery. And perseverance! Help me, it's too hot to laugh this hard.

Haha! Yes. My thoughts too.
ScreamingMeMe · 19/07/2021 17:54

Archived the tweet and article from The Mary Sue. Absolutely outrageous. I hope she Mary Sues them.

twitter.com/TheMarySue/status/1417132116324671493?s=20

www.themarysue.com/jk-rowling-transphobic-twitter-troll/amp/?utm_source=mostpopular&__twitter_impression=true

Rhannion · 19/07/2021 17:49

@RaindropsOnRosie

She should have her devices taken off her so she doesn't keep posting on Twitter.
🙄 seriously are you that daft? Her Twitter thread only had disgusting images on it because disgusting people thought it would be fun to post it on a thread meant for children to share their pictures for her new book. Give your head a wobble hen.
EmbarrassingAdmissions · 19/07/2021 17:39

The original is from The Mary Sue (never heard of them before.)

US commenters who are hoping to attract attention - the site is a reflection of a fanfiction phenomenon which should be a source of embarrassment all round to an audience of 'geek girls'. For once I agree with a wikipedia entry (on the adolescent point):

A Mary Sue is a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as unrealistically free of weaknesses.[1] Originating in fan fiction, a Mary Sue is often an author's idealized self-insertion. Mary Sue stories are often written by adolescent authors.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue

Waitwhat23 · 19/07/2021 17:38

@SheldonesqueTheBstard as a fellow Scot, I couldn't agree more. I have absolutely lost faith in this country.

There should be a bill board with a picture of Nicola and a quote of your words -

Death threats. Pipe bomb threats. Rape threats.

And you are silent.

Feminist? Are ye aye?

yourhairiswinterfire · 19/07/2021 17:33

@Novelusername

MSN?! Fucking hell, I really hope she sees that, she has to sue!
The original is from The Mary Sue (never heard of them before.)

twitter.com/TheMarySue/status/1417132116324671493

I hope she takes action too.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 19/07/2021 17:25

[quote Tesla73]Glinner 100% correct here - celebs love virtue signalling and being woke but their silence on this is deplorable

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/where-is-everyone?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copy[/quote]
Seeing Dataracer's collection of the threats made about JKR…speechless doesn't cover it.

What are those people thinking? In what world are we all living under this secular set of rules that binds the behaviour of women in this way and that has abandoned any pretence of social and civic discourse?

Just what would it take for the celebrities Glinner mentions to condemn those comments? Even if they mealy-mouthed or vitiated it with multiple caveats?

Or, do they know with a racing certainty, that if people can threaten JKR with this sense of impunity, their own relative lack of comparable celebrity would strand them nowhere?

Would they sooner live with the ignominity of knowing how they'd failed JKR, and a test of their character that is leading us to something that inexorably leans in to aspects of totalitarianism and a restriction of the freedom of belief and thought than take a stand on any aspect of this?

People like Robin Ince, Daragh O'Briain, Josie Long, Brian Cox, Jon Ronson - keep silent if they must but they should never again voice their self-identified credentials on the principles of science, reason, fairness, rationality or skepticism. Especially when the men aren't subject to anything like the same sanctions as women for speaking up. (I acknowledge that Andy Lewis has a rough time and most of the skeptic community has abandoned him but I don't think he experiences as many threats of violence as women nor has he been deplatformed. He is still treated in a wretched manner and with no consideration for his considerable contributions to rationality and many important initiatives.) Look at the soft handling that Tom Chivers got for a tiptoe around the issue that had seen Gia Mililovich reviled.

At the very least, where is their sense that they should be defending the principle of discussion in the public arena and standing up for freedom of thought?

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 19/07/2021 17:24

Glinner, as usual, nails it. Where are the voices?

As a Scot (you will note I am no longer a proud Scot) I wonder how the hate bill would deal with this.

I can’t begin to imagine how JKR feels.

I feel sickened.

So Nicola. As the proud feminist that you state you are, how do you feel? This principled man is speaking up loud and hard for someone who is being persecuted for caring about the rights of women and children.

And you, well, stay silent. Again.

Death threats. Pipe bomb threats. Rape threats.

And you are silent.

Feminist? Are ye aye?

TheSlayer · 19/07/2021 16:59

I'm really upset to see all those death threats. We underestimate the mental toll this will have on her. She's probably got good security, but there have been nutters who have killed or attempted to kill celebrities before and they were generally lone wolves. This is a whole army of violent thugs.
To be honest, even if she said something utterly, utterly unforgivable, instead of perfectly reasonable 'sex is real and has consequences', death threats are never, ever ok and the world's media should be pulling alongside to show it's not ok to use identity politics to threaten people.
That she's been perfectly civil and empathic just makes it all the more awful it's been allowed to happen.

Novelusername · 19/07/2021 16:36

MSN?! Fucking hell, I really hope she sees that, she has to sue!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/07/2021 16:23

(theMSN one)

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/07/2021 16:19

190 comments on that article. I just skimmed through the first couple of dozen or so, every single one supportive of JKR.

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