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Oh ffs..."people with uteruses"

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irresistibleoverwhelm · 17/07/2021 21:31

Downloaded Flo period app after Clue went all "people who menstruate", as they seemed reasonably sensible; but today got a popup notification from them letting me know that "70% of people with uteruses get uterine fibroids" FFS.

So fricking sick of this total bollocks rubbish.

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MimiDaisy11 · 17/07/2021 21:57

It’s ridiculous. I was just reading an article on a medical site about menstruation and the covid vaccines.
It mentions the “gender gap” in medical research and then spends the rest of the article taking about “people with periods”. They’re always so inconsistent and always wrongly use gender and sex - even on health and medical sites Hmm . Though it’s amusing as despite someone checking over the document to remove words like “woman” there’s usually one or two they overlook.

I wish people trying to minimise sex would just step back and think - does this group not deserve a name. I mean we have single words for such trivial things yet categorising adult females isn’t worthy of that.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/07/2021 21:49

All the big charities are captured. It’s a total gravy train of them all paying each other for training in their ‘area of expertise’

irresistibleoverwhelm · 17/07/2021 21:48

I find it so enraging that it's often well-meaning but quite young women who are driving and enforcing these linguistic changes -- without any appreciation of just how much they are colluding with some of the most timeless misogyny about what women are thought and represented to be.

Just when we seem to have acquired some actual equal rights as persons before the law and society, this stuff pops up to remind us of the age-old reducing of women to their bodies and body parts and reproductive anatomy and whether they are fertile or not -- just to chip away at any sense we might have that we are actual people and not just bodies that are "not men".

Only this time, there's a whole host of young handmaidens to the patriarchy at work, standing ready to claim that this is in fact terribly progressive; and completely blinded to how complicit they are in their own erasure.

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Megasausagehead · 17/07/2021 21:47

Erasure of biological women AGAIN AND AGAIN

AnneLovesGilbert · 17/07/2021 21:47

Institutional capture.

And you just have to wonder who the fuck these companies think will benefit from it or reward their efforts to make women sound like a bunch of biological functions. It’s dehumanising, pathetic, toxic, dangerous.

Not all women know they have cervixes, or uteruses or menstruate. This ridiculous language stops women who just know that they’re women from accessing products they might want and services they may need.

bellinisurge · 17/07/2021 21:42

This stupid bullshit will eventually get public attention and it will come back to bite them on the arse.
Can't wait.

lifeissweet · 17/07/2021 21:41

I found 'people who have periods' on the MIND website the other day when I was looking up PMDD while I was feeling fairly suicidal pre-period.

It's everywhere. Even our hormonal imbalances aren't sex-specific any more.

irresistibleoverwhelm · 17/07/2021 21:41

@EnjoyingTheSunshine

It's almost as if the word "women" is shameful
Yes -- and on that Vagina Museum thread they actually recommend replacing women and girls with "people who menstruate".

I guess disembodied body parts is their thing, but how f-ing demeaning is that? What about women and girls who don't menstruate? Nice to reduce all of us to a bodily function. That's not derogatory or reactionary at all, of course.

Way to go to make it crystal clear that the agenda is really nothing about "including" transmen, but all about reducing women to being bodies and bits of bodies rather than actual people with minds, feelings, thoughts, desires, aspirations -- no, we're just functions.

And these people have the utter f*ing gall to say that "GC feminists" are "biological essentialists".

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irresistibleoverwhelm · 17/07/2021 21:37

Also just been marvelling at the utter bizarrity of this:

mobile.twitter.com/vagina_museum/status/1415685648736940036

"Instead of 'women's health', say 'reproductive health' or 'gynaecological health' (whatever you prefer)
Instead of 'women and girls', say 'people who menstruate' or 'people who have periods'"

Twitter thread of the VAGINA MUSEUM. I'll say it again, the VAGINA MUSEUM.

Let's not scare anyone by mentioning who the vaginas might be attached to! Just think of them as a body part that anyone might have. A bit like a museum, but just for Fleshlights. Lots and lots of disembodied Fleshlights.

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EnjoyingTheSunshine · 17/07/2021 21:34

It's almost as if the word "women" is shameful