Oh ffs..."people with uteruses"

It does make me feel like the next step is to refer to us as bleeders. Or just go the whole 9 yards...c#@*s.

The world is divided by the woke into men and non-men, so we don't need the word women any more, clearly.

The plural of uterus is uteri anyway, surely? (Gets point but gets easily distracted by etymology, too)

Is nobody allowed to just feel proud or comfortable to be a woman/mother anymore. Now we are reduced to organs and functions.

I hate being referred to by body parts and biological functions. As a woman with fertility issues it's such a kick in the teeth to constantly be reminded that my female body repeatedly failed to carry out the function it was designed for. It is so degrading.

It's strange that they repeatedly use the word 'women' on their Instagram page but not in the app: www.instagram.com/flotracker/

Thanks for letting us know about this. I was using Flo and have just deleted it. It was incredibly patronising anyway, and they're probably using my data for god knows what, so I can manage perfectly well without as it's really just a calendar. I'll leave it for those happy to be called 'people with uteruses'. Doesn't it sound like a form of masochism, women who approve and try to enforce all this stuff? It seems like they think this is their path to some sort of salvation, that women will no longer be bottom of the heap if we just pretend women don't really exist. Poor cows.

Ah, I don't menstruate any more but I do cycle to work. Great - I'm included!

(Pretty sure there is a Victoria Wood sketch about this - something to do with cycle clips....)

The majority have to change their titles for the tiny minority who choose to change their gender. As 'a person with a penis'I understand your frustration its getting a bit OTT now in the media.

How do you explain to girls that they will start to menstruate, without using the word ‘girls’?

‘Right, young people-who-will-potentially-menstruate, you come into the hall to watch PHSE Video 1, while the people-who-will-not-ever-menstruate stay in the classroom and watch Video 2.
Jessie, what do you mean, you don’t know which room to be in?’

[quote emilybens123]I also feel like some brands and communications go too far in trying to be progressive and actually exclude more people by being 'inclusive'

I went to read Clue's policy on language and here's what they say they use now:

helloclue.com/articles/culture/accessibility-gendered-language-at-clue[/quote]
5% of the people who use that don’t think they’re women? Blimey.

How are we supposed to talk about the fact that for women, and women only, there are a number of reasons that being ‘a person who doesn’t menstruate’ is very significant?

I also feel like some brands and communications go too far in trying to be progressive and actually exclude more people by being 'inclusive'

I went to read Clue's policy on language and here's what they say they use now:

helloclue.com/articles/culture/accessibility-gendered-language-at-clue

Public attention is starting.

My mum said to me this evening "did you know you are not allowed to say "woman" any more, it's all Birthing People and People with Uteruses?" My dad then mentioned JK Rowling!

I haven't discussed it with them and they don't use the internet. I think there have been articles in the Telegraph recently.

My mum is not impressed.

I may point her in the direction of some letters to write.

Thankful for the menopause quite honestly!!
I'd use uterus havers etc if men could be referred to as prostate owners, testicle bearers or penis havers. Which won't happen. Ever.
Funny how the word men isn't getting messed with

We know we aren't seeing similar calls to nuance language around men

Yes, out of curiosity I looked at the Prostate Cancer Charity website. No mention of "people" there, just men.

prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-information/are-you-at-risk/

All the big charities are captured. It’s a total gravy train of them all paying each other for training in their ‘area of expertise’

This is so fucking true.

I am still getting to grips with some of this, but I don't understand what is wrong with saying "women and people who menstruate". That covers it all - women who menstruate and trans men who menstruate. I am a woman who doesn't menstruate because I am old, I am not offended to be reminded of that fact.

It should be uteri not uteruses.

Keep pushing back. Keep pushing

Leave an app don’t suscribe to an app which uses this shite. After all they need us to subscribe to keep going

But they never do it on telly ads. Notice that.

They only do it where they can’t be in front of most of us

Too afraid

Saw this earlier today - here’s Milli Hill’s response that sums it up nicely:

Women have fought for decades to remove the shame around the language to describe their biology. It's because of their efforts that you can even call yourselves Vagina Museum. And now you're trying to frame the erasure of women and their words as progressive? Idiocy.