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Moderation principles of discussion around gender identity and sex

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/07/2021 12:31

But when you click on it, it says “trans rights moderation policy” as opposed to “gender identity and sex moderation policy”

That seems odd Confused and reinforces the idea that discussion is about trans rights rather than the rights of women and girls

Apologies if I’m late to the party on this but I’d not clicked on the link before

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/07/2021 12:46

It does very much feel that either MN have someone who is not sympathetic to GC and given them FWR to look after it there is pressure coming from somewhere powerful

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FloralBunting · 17/07/2021 12:45

The original extra special guidelines were 'trans rights discussion guidelines'. We asked MNHQ to change the title as per the one you see on the link, because for most of us, the discussion was fuck all to do with trans, it was about women's rights. I believe there was a disconnect between the newly titled link, and the original address which remained 'trans rights'for technical link reasons.

I don't know if anything has been changed. I suspect not. But who knows, given the lack of engagement about the name of this board.

CardinalLolzy · 17/07/2021 12:45

The old thread from when it changed previously is here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3781626-Mumsnet-statement-on-moderation-with-regard-to

TheSlayer · 17/07/2021 12:45

Why is there no reference to women or women's rights?
The million dollar question.

TheSlayer · 17/07/2021 12:40

Judging by recent events I suspect there's someone with a vested interest taking a hand now.
I can't fathom why else they're hanging on to the word 'debate' so much when it's caused so many issues for the regular posters.

I mean, they don't have PETA's 'animals aren't ours' at the top of the doghouse rules, do they?
Or farmer's rights at the top of the vegan forums.
None of these have earned the word 'debate', and I personally can say people always wander on to the vegan page to cause trouble.

Waitwhat23 · 17/07/2021 12:40

In fact, nowhere in either the title or the entire introductory paragraph are the words woman, women's rights or feminism used. It's dated 2018 but this reads differently to a version I've seen recently.

'Trans Rights Moderation Policy

Mumsnet will always stand in solidarity with vulnerable or oppressed minorities.

Mumsnet is also committed to freedom of speech. Sometimes these two principles come into conflict, rarely more so than in the recent debate about what it is acceptable to say, or not to say, about trans people, and changing opinions about gender and sex. Some have criticised Mumsnet for allowing posts that some trans people find offensive, even hateful. Others have complained that we have “censored” comments which broke no laws and deserved to be heard. To try to create a more civil and mutually respectful conversation, we are spelling out a few principles for how discussions about trans issues will be moderated on Mumsnet.

Why is there no reference to women or women's rights?

EndoplasmicReticulum · 17/07/2021 12:37

Just found it by googling here:

www.mumsnet.com/i/trans-rights-moderation-policy

When did the title change?

Waitwhat23 · 17/07/2021 12:35

I had noticed that too. Would be interested to know whether this was also the title of the link when the board was called FWR.

Seems like a pretty clear bias to me. It doesn't even mention Feminism.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 17/07/2021 12:34

Yes, I think that's changed. I clicked on it by accident the other day and thought "I'm sure it used to have a different title".

Can't find it to check at the moment (on desktop don't seem to see it).

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