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Janice Turner interviews Jess Philips in the Times

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 17/07/2021 09:44

Interesting read:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d8851824-e3c1-11eb-afdb-c7b01afbcfc5?shareToken=aab7b7c1ae6d3cef2a3097ebc6dfec5b

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She says her greatest achievement is “making women as important as bins”. Councils only had only two statutory duties: adult and children’s social services, and refuse collection. The Domestic Abuse Act adds a third: providing women’s refuges.

What surprised her when sitting on the women and equalities committee, which discussed Gender Recognition Act reforms, was the requirement of two years living “in role” as the opposite sex before changing a birth certificate. “How do you live in role as a man? Have I got to use a spanner? No one could answer that. I’ve got short hair. I’m wearing trousers. Like, it’s not an act, is it? You can’t act like a woman, because we’re all different.”

She is aghast that the modern left seeks to legitimise, even idealise, prostitution, which through her long experience in the refuge movement she sees as sexual abuse. She uses the term “prostituted women” rather than the woke euphemism “sex workers”. Moreover, she’s long been concerned about long-standing women’s refuges losing funds in favour of generic services that purport to include everyone. “If you had £1 million for domestic violence services, you’d give £800,000 to a women’s refuge based on need and numbers. Having specialist services for LGBT or male victims of domestic abuse is totally brilliant and legitimate. They’re not the same. They need different services.”

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Floisme · 17/07/2021 10:26

My views on Jess Phillips are all over the place and that article encapsulates why. Very astute from Janice Turner - as usual.

Melroses · 17/07/2021 10:24

"How do you live in role as a man?" ....

Yet living "in role" as a woman is a woman Hmm

I suspect that on the "hard issues" she would go to the side of the fence that she is pushed.

RoyalCorgi · 17/07/2021 10:23

What surprised her when sitting on the women and equalities committee, which discussed Gender Recognition Act reforms, was the requirement of two years living “in role” as the opposite sex before changing a birth certificate.

It's remarkable that someone sitting on the women and equalities committee wasn't already familiar with this important piece of legislation.

In any case, what does she imagine happens when someone changes legal sex? This is a woman who went along with a committee that discussed reforms to the legislation without once interviewing a single woman or women's organisation that might be affected by the change, and heard exclusively from trans lobby groups and activists including some with very dodgy aims and histories - Jess Bradley being one notable example. The woman has no shame at all.

Shedbuilder · 17/07/2021 10:20

Yes, she always keeps all options open. Pity, because I've heard her speak live on several occasions and she has always seemed engaging and open, despite no one being entirely sure where she stood when they thought about it afterwards. Hints here, hints there, but always plausible deniability if anyone takes umbrage.

gailforce1 · 17/07/2021 10:03

Trending on Twitter now. As someone has commented Jess Phillips "speaks out of both sides of her mouth".

Avocadowoman · 17/07/2021 09:53

Very interesting. Still partly on the fence, but you get the sense that on the hard issues like prisons she would come down on the side of single sex.

Comingoutfighting · 17/07/2021 09:51

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