Survey- Public attitudes to transgender prisoners

That's my issue. They weren't so risky that women needed to be protected. They were male by sex and should be in the correct prison for that.

Well that was poor! I filled it in quite honestly, but as a 'card carrying' RC who prays every day, attends Mass every week, supports safe legal abortion, doesn't darn socks (what else is a dustbin for!) and knows that sex is immutable - I'm still laughing at the absurd assumptions - surely the study supervisor should have picked up on even a few of the points so quickly spotted by the massive Mumsnet brain!

I think it is worded to see if those who care about gender roles eg women darn socks, men go out to work are those who don't approve of transwomen in prison.

In fact it's often the opposite - women aren't interested in performative gender and are concerned that regardless of presentation, penis people have male pattern violence.

As wonderfully shown in the scenario I was given - a man is interested in 'girly stuff and clothes' but when he has an argument with a woman he hits her.

What I found hard about this survey is that it conflates the sentencing and the prison. So one of the questions was something like "This person is so dangerous they should be housed away from female prisoners."

Well, if they receive a custodial sentence, I don't think they should be in a women's prison - especially as in my scenario the alleged offence was a violent one. But that's not the same as me saying that they should be locked up without a trial and the use of appropriate sentencing guidelines. Or (unlike some judges recently) that I am making a judgement about a custodial sentence based on their gender identity.

Mm I filled it in, it was a bit weird with all the Christian and men should be in charge shite but I went in with an anti-death penalty/patriarchy/religion, pro-therapy/single-sex prisons approach so hopefully helped make the point.

I thought maybe darning socks was a trap. To make those of us who thought it was ridiculous for anyone to darn a sock to sound like we believe in gender roles.

I persevered but it is appallingly worded

I couldn't help but think that the scenario where the student asked if a man should pay for a 'lady' on a date was a personal fantasy ...

There are clearly a few initial scenarios. The one I got was fairly obvious, er no he's just hit a woman and just has some 'feelings' about being girly.

I agree, a lot of the responses about what I'd want to happen to the prisoner I'd want for all prisoners - interventions to prevent reoffending, care of mental health etc.

The focus seems to be do those who are more religious/want the death penalty/are in favour of 'lock them up and throw away the key' want transwomen in male prisons.

Given how many women who are GC are left-leaning, I'd encourage as many people to fill it out as possible!

I persevered but it is appallingly worded. Makes very little sense and no where near enough information to be making any realistic sort of determination

It's a terrible study. I hope the student concerned is surprised at the findings and thinks about them.

I think we need to complain to the university and the ethics committee. Blow this rubbish out of the water.

How the fuck did the ethics committee let that travesty through?

It is a prime example of how not to write a survey so many leading questions. They also seem to think that religious people are right wing which in this country is not true. Marcus Rashford is Christian as one example. Many people who attend religious services of all denominations are going to have a positive attitude to immigration as they themselves were immigrants.

They are the one with regressive ideas about gender they seem to think that nasty women lie about being raped. That is a right wing trope that the US right wing bring out all the time.

I would be interested in seeing their findings.

If it is on twitter and is anonymous, surely anyone can complete it I.e. TRAs, MRAs.

It is meaningless.

Some very odd questions on there, enough to make me think they really, really want us to be the American Christian right. The idea that in the UK this is a movement of primarily lefty feminist women just does not compute.

It's rubbish. Have universities really degenerated this far?

From the debrief sheet it looks like the survey is presenting one of many scenarios to anyone taking it, so some posters may see something different to others.

I agree with PP that the wording in places was really weird.

This is a terrible 'study'. How on earth the supervisor signed this off I do not understand! Poorly wrote, factually inaccurate (erm how on earth can we judge whether someone you've said is accused.. as in not proven guilty! should be gave a community order or recieve personalised help in prison?! What???) It's filled with leading questions and ... Worded statements that have no specifics at all!

How on earth do you 'strongly agree-strongly disagree' to 'multiculturism' or 'bible truth' (wtf is that??) Etc etc.

... what are they actually asking here. In research if you're asking questions like this, they need to be questions. Not just random words spewed out and telling people to agree or disagree with them.

This person really needs to learn how to complete research properly. What an embarrassment.

The best tweet

Replying to
@fairplaywomen
"Here's the story of poor, poor Robin now let's subtly discover if you're a religious fanatic or a time traveller from 1840 so we can write off your opinion that prisons should be single sex."

They even used check rather than cheque. It was all American.

Since my code is chugging, what I found most interesting is that my tolerance towards post surgical trans people had plummeted since last I gave it much thought

I also objected to the fact you were forced to have a gender even if you were allowed to not say what it was

Wildgarlic I always say, yes, it's in my handbag

It's very conservative American isn't it? I find a lot of UK students/young people speak fluent American without even realising they are doing it. My DS asks me if I have my "purse" when he means handbag!