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American Booksellers Association and Abigail Shrier

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lionheart · 15/07/2021 21:02

Sorry if there is already a thread--I couldn't find it.

American Booksellers Association and Abigail Shrier
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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/07/2021 07:45

One of the responses to ABA I saw on Twitter went something like:

Do you distribute the Bible?

Grin
CousinKrispy · 16/07/2021 07:45

Bless.

Wonder if the ABA has had to issue similar grovelling for having given an award to The Education of Little Tree, a book which co-opts the experiences of Native Americans and claims to be autobiography, but actually turned out to have been written by a segregationist Klan member. Or maybe that doesn't matter as much to them.

alkanet · 16/07/2021 07:44

This is actually serious? They've got to be taking the piss surely?

ScreamingMeMe · 16/07/2021 07:34

@Olderbadger1

One of the totally proportionate responses on twatter, that edifice of reasonable eloquence...

@AnneOgborn
Replace every single person on your selection committee with a trans person. Commit to sending a pro trans book with every order for the next 5 years and drop the book's publisher, and any other publisher who publishes hate. Publish a complete account of how this happened, including names of all employees involved. Fire all involved in the decision and their managers, transitively up to the CEO.

Jesus wept.
MillicentMargaretAmanda · 16/07/2021 07:32

Oh dear... the American Booksellers Association have locked their Twitter account overnight. Hopefully they are having a good old think about how they uphold their commitments to free speech...

Sophoclesthefox · 16/07/2021 07:31

Unlike The Satanic Verses though, Irreversible Damage is worth a read Wink

Sophoclesthefox · 16/07/2021 07:29

Nice catch on their supposed commitment to free speech, ferret! Can anyone in the US give Dave a quick ring to break the news to him that unfortunately his coat looks like it’s on a shoogly peg as free speech is definitely out Grin

Anyone who lived through the controversy around The Satanic Verses is probably having the same powerful sense of deja vu that I am right now. I think we’re all probably quite surprised that in this adaptation the Ayatollah Khomeini is being played by the American Booksellers Association, though, which is certainly not a casting decision anyone would have expected a few years ago.

First time is a tragedy, second time is a farce? Don’t think Marx could have seen this one coming either Confused

lionheart · 15/07/2021 23:46

@HeirloomTomato

I got the Kindle version. Much safer. No risk it’ll up and murder me in the middle of the night. Grin
Don't be so sure and don't let your guard down.
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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 15/07/2021 23:30

We apologize to our trans members and to the trans community for this terrible incident and the pain we caused them.

I should hope so. Poor babies. I hope they survive this terrible incident and may even, one day, be able to risk looking at a book cover again...

ReversedFerret · 15/07/2021 23:07

Interesting.

From the American Booksellers' Association website:

"The American Booksellers for Free Expression (ABFE)is the bookseller's voice in the fight for free speech. Its mission is to promote and protect the free exchange of ideas, particularly those contained in books, by opposing restrictions on the freedom of speech; issuing statements on significant free expression controversies; participating in legal cases involving First Amendment rights; collaborating with other groups with an interest in free speech; and providing education about the importance of free expression to booksellers, other members of the book industry, politicians, the press and the public:

  • Banned Books Week
  • Kids' Right to Read
  • Partners Program and Products
  • Free Expression Resources on BookWeb.org

Have a free speech emergency? Contact ABFE Director Dave Grogan at 845-242-8605."

(Hello, yes, Dave? We have a free speech emergency right here… )

If anyone should be fired or asked to resign (as demanded in the predictable replies to the set of tweets linked above) - or more likely given a time-out, as I’m sure it must have been Take Your Child to Work Day - it's whoever sent those overwrought, misinformed apology tweets from the ABAbook account in the first place.

Further: "we also apologize to the LGBTQIA+ community at large... " ??? Desisters and detransitioners are PART of the LGBTQIA community and ALSO have opinions, feelings, needs, rights, and experiences. You should apologise to them for any hurt you've caused by pandering to the bullies who keep lodging these nuisance complaints. The Royal Academy of Arts (London) might have some tips for you.

Nonmaquillee · 15/07/2021 22:54

My copy has been borrowed by a teacher at my DC’s school. I’m assuming she’s still alive….

The hyperbole is just astounding. They’ve used up all the most awful adjectives possible…so which words do they use to describe something that really IS violent and harmful? They’re going to implode…

littlbrowndog · 15/07/2021 22:51

Leave it on their night stand inspector. With a wee cat filing their nails.

NotTheFunKindOfFeminist · 15/07/2021 22:49

That statement may be in a history textbook one day, but not for the reason that they think it will be.

Langsdestiny · 15/07/2021 22:48

Sorry I know its serious but that statement is so funny. Imagine sitting down and writing that.

InspectorHastings · 15/07/2021 22:44

I also have this book. It's kept hidden from my woke child like a dirty secret. Every so often it gets lent to someone else, wrapped in brown paper, passed with a whisper.
Feels like a rerun of when Lady Chatterley's Lover was the most controversial book you could own.

Voice0fReason · 15/07/2021 22:41

Oh dear lord, how do they cope with life!

It's a brilliant book, I highly recommend it.

HeirloomTomato · 15/07/2021 22:39

I got the Kindle version. Much safer. No risk it’ll up and murder me in the middle of the night. Grin

99point9FahrenheitDegrees · 15/07/2021 22:37

Mine is on top of the complete set of Cormoran Strike also waiting by my bed. It is too late for me. Save yourselves!

Stanleysaway · 15/07/2021 22:36

Anne is now saying they have to physically recover every single copy? Can't see more from them, sadly.

StandUpStraight · 15/07/2021 22:33

I’m having visions of the toothy monster book that chased Harry Potter around the room. Now that was a violent book.

PamDenick · 15/07/2021 22:32

Nope. Still not scared of it.
It's still an inanimate object...

lionheart · 15/07/2021 22:30

Wait 'til after midnight.

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PamDenick · 15/07/2021 22:30

No cats. No toddlers.

PamDenick · 15/07/2021 22:29

It's still there.

No violence so far…

AfternoonToffee · 15/07/2021 22:27

@yourhairiswinterfire

It's just setting quietly on my bedside table.

You don't sleep with both eyes closed with that thug of a book sat right there, watching and waiting, do you? 😱

Oh no. Shock

Well if you don't see me again you will know what has happened to me at least.