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Sian Berry

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Davros · 14/07/2021 18:21

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sian-berry-green-party-trans-rights-row-b1883943.html%3famp
She has quit as leader if the Green Party over trans issues. But I can't work out if she is TWAW or "they" are

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dyslek · 14/07/2021 18:50

A mate said to me; Are the Greens to bonkers for Sian? or is Sian too bonkers for them?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2021 18:50

Yes, it is.

LizzieSiddal · 14/07/2021 18:49

She’s completely TWAW and was chums with Challoner

Oh dear. Well good job she’s gone then.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2021 18:49

It really isn't. Sian whooped and cheered when women were denied a voice when it is clear that there is a significant minority of gender critical women in the Green Party, as seems clear from the reason she gives that she's flouncing. She's a shameless, attention seeking, pomo-addled careerist.

heathspeedwell · 14/07/2021 18:49

You would think that her experiences with the Challenor family might have made her take a step back and consider why she thinks male-born people can represent the rights of women.

Both Aimee and Aimee's former stepbrother (now stepsister) appear to have inherited David Challenor's interest in clothing styles. Both also appear to have inherited an interest in identifying as furry and identifying as incontinent, nappy-wearing toddlers.

I find it surprising that this hasn't made Sian wonder if she was right to invite David Challenor on Green party picnics, particularly as he was active in the Green party for over a year after being charged with the rape and torture of a 10 year old girl.

Note to Mods: Although I'm aware David Challenor identified as female when he raped that 10 year old girl, and made her refer to him by a female name, I am using male pronouns for him as I believe he is currently identifying as male.

Manderleyagain · 14/07/2021 18:48

There's more detail here too.
inews.co.uk/news/politics/sian-berry-quits-as-green-party-co-leader-over-inconsistencies-around-trans-issues-1103236

From this article its more that because shahrar Ali (and maybe others?) was elected as a spokesperson she thinks this gives mixed messages about their intentions re trans rights so she's stepped down. Quite how she thinks it'll play out i don't know.

AlfonsoTheMango · 14/07/2021 18:46

Berry is a TWAW person.

PumpkinSpiceWoman · 14/07/2021 18:44

@Ereshkigalangcleg

It's possible to support both natal women and transwomen.

I suppose so, with limitations on one side or the other or both. Sian doesn't support women though.

That's just so dishonest.
GettingUntrapped · 14/07/2021 18:42

I hope this gets the EXPOSURE it deserves.
Terrifying!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2021 18:38

It's possible to support both natal women and transwomen.

I suppose so, with limitations on one side or the other or both. Sian doesn't support women though.

NeedNewKnees · 14/07/2021 18:30

She’s completely TWAW and was chums with Challoner

Davros · 14/07/2021 18:29

@Orf1abc

she is not supporting natal women

It's possible to support both natal women and transwomen.

Not in the Green Party so it seems
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Manderleyagain · 14/07/2021 18:28

The guardian have covered it too. It was obvious from that article that she thinks self id etc is the most pressing social issue, but she was getting push back from other members of the 'front bench team' who are elected positions. It sounded like she didn't think she could persue the gender policies she wanted within the party structure. There is obviously dissent among those with power in the party.

Whatabouttery · 14/07/2021 18:25

Pretty clear she is fervently TWAW

Orf1abc · 14/07/2021 18:25

she is not supporting natal women

It's possible to support both natal women and transwomen.

GrrrlPwr · 14/07/2021 18:24

Sorry my article is from the Times. But it was similarly vague. But the comments usually have interesting intel

GrrrlPwr · 14/07/2021 18:24

Read the comments section- she is not supporting natal women. Wonder if there's change afoot in the Green Party?

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