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Is this a man or a woman?

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GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:21

YABU: woman

YANBU: man

www.cp24.com/news/woman-charged-after-allegedly-sexually-assaulting-boy-6-in-toronto-park-1.5507641

I can’t even begin to express myself.

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DismantledKing · 13/07/2021 23:46

@OnSecondThoughts

2 + 2 = 4. Always. Forever. It doesn't matter how many fingers O'Brien holds up, or what pressure he applies, or what drugs you're on. Men are men. Women are women. End of.
Exactly this.
MotionActivatedDog · 13/07/2021 23:45

@chickenyhead

Man by sex

Transwoman by gender.

The article doesn’t mention that they are a transwoman so I’m not sure you can assume that gender ID for them.
OnSecondThoughts · 13/07/2021 23:45

2 + 2 = 4. Always. Forever. It doesn't matter how many fingers O'Brien holds up, or what pressure he applies, or what drugs you're on. Men are men. Women are women. End of.

chickenyhead · 13/07/2021 23:45

There are currently, according to HMPO approximately 1,300 male sexed transwomen in male prisons. I'm sure they'd like to move to one of the 3,400 female spaces.

Maybe if we release the 1,100 women currently behind bars for council tax evasion, we could have 1 male sexed to 2 female sexed inmates in female prisons.

Google Karen White for the risks posed to women.

Skinnytailedsquirrel · 13/07/2021 23:44

I get angrier by the day reading shit like this. How fucking dare they insult women by saying this is a "woman". How fucking dare they. It is not a word that can be misconstrued in any way. A woman is an adult human female. That shitbag is a male.

walkoflifewoohoo · 13/07/2021 23:42

Disgusting.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 13/07/2021 23:42

So potentially something like this could get thrown out of court if the child insists in their statement (as children will often do) that the sky is
indeed blue, bears poo in the woods, the Pope is catholic, and the ‘bad man’ did xyz.

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GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:41

At least this report (written by a woman) mentions neither man, nor woman

www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/07/13/toronto-police-lay-charges-after-six-year-old-boy-sexually-assaulted-in-park.html

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BlackeyedSusan · 13/07/2021 23:40

Crimes in the UK are also recorded under the criminal's personal preference for gender identity. If you have an issue with that, I believe there may be a campaign against that but one would need to look at the petitions board on Mumsnet or on the Parliament petitions site.

Parliament's petitions site is good for a look round as there are all sorts of campaigns on there covering many things.

WaspSeasonIsIncoming · 13/07/2021 23:40

Crimes should be recorded by sex, if gender must be used then there should be a secondary box documenting this.

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GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:39

Nowhere does it say trans.

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GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:38

@BSJohnson

I’ve just used the ‘report error’ button to point out the error they seem to have made imho.
Good call!
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soolazy · 13/07/2021 23:37

@Iggii

How confusing for the children assaulted to be told it was a woman who did this to them Sad
Exactly. And everyone involved would know the truth but keep telling him, no it was a woman with a penis who raped you It's Kafkaesque.
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GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:37

What about the women in the prison that he’s sent to?

What about the crime statistics?

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Joolsin · 13/07/2021 23:37

That is indisputably a man. And a nasty one at that.

RubyGoat · 13/07/2021 23:37

That is a male person. If they have committed a penis crime, they're a man. Women don't commit penis crimes.

LadyCatStark · 13/07/2021 23:36

Jesus, he’s not even trying to look like a woman!

FlibbertyGiblets · 13/07/2021 23:35

Oh. I can see why confusions could happen.

BSJohnson · 13/07/2021 23:35

I’ve just used the ‘report error’ button to point out the error they seem to have made imho.

Thevenerableswede · 13/07/2021 23:34

And 3% think this is a woman ?

Dozer · 13/07/2021 23:34

So some publications are not using the word ‘woman’ in articles about birth and women's health, and instead refer to ‘people’ or parts of anatomy, but are use ‘woman’ to describe a biologically male perpetrator of sex crime!

Iggii · 13/07/2021 23:34

How confusing for the children assaulted to be told it was a woman who did this to them Sad

Skinnytailedsquirrel · 13/07/2021 23:34

I assume the 2% who have replied YABU have pressed that button by mistake. Sadly we can't correct errors.

OnSecondThoughts · 13/07/2021 23:33

@IHaveBrilloHair

It depends on what they feel like of course. Isn't that what we're supposed to accept?
Yes, it is what we are "supposed" to accept, but it is factually wrong. He can "identify" as a woman - he is a man. He can have his genitalia removed and relaced with female genitalia - he is a man. The media and governments of the world can insist that he is a woman, and laws might be changed so as to sentence anyone who still insists he is a man, to prison or worse. He is still a man.
pigsDOfly · 13/07/2021 23:33

Don't care what he wants to call himself, that's a man.

As pp said, Canada is really going all out for this sort of self identification.