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Is this a man or a woman?

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GreatBigBird · 13/07/2021 23:21

YABU: woman

YANBU: man

www.cp24.com/news/woman-charged-after-allegedly-sexually-assaulting-boy-6-in-toronto-park-1.5507641

I can’t even begin to express myself.

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ufucoffee · 14/07/2021 07:07

Even the people writing that article must know. He's a man. How has this happened that people have to pretend he's a woman?

Carandi · 14/07/2021 07:06

I don't believe in sex changes. I know the ops happen but I don't believe you can change biology with surgery. That aside, if the law is going to allow people to "change sex" then in my opinion they shouldn't be allowed to be referred to as the alternate sex until they've had the full surgery. You keep your penis, you keep being a man, and vice versa.

This specimen is clearly a man and seems to want to look like one, regardless of what they're calling themself.

biggirlknickers · 14/07/2021 07:03

The shoulders don’t actually look like a woman’s - he is wearing a top that has a neckline in a style like many women wear which does give the glancing impression of women’s shoulders. But the shape of him - jaw, brow, shoulders and all - is unmistakably male.

SnoopyLights · 14/07/2021 06:59

@Dozer

So some publications are not using the word ‘woman’ in articles about birth and women's health, and instead refer to ‘people’ or parts of anatomy, but are use ‘woman’ to describe a biologically male perpetrator of sex crime!
This makes me furious.

You can see the mental gymnastics they have gone through to avoid the word woman at all costs while talking about women. To the point that many articles don't make sense, to the point that I won't donate to the charity any more, to the point that I will unfollow the writer or artist on all social media, to the point that I will avoid their product if I can.

But then up pops a sex offender / child abuser and they're throwing the word woman around like confetti at a wedding.

Anonymum263 · 14/07/2021 06:58

Um

borntobequiet · 14/07/2021 06:57

A horrible man and a horrible human.
Who are the 6%? Hopefully confused by the voting options, otherwise deluded.

MissChanandlerBong22 · 14/07/2021 06:51

As other posters have said, it’s so interesting that the word ‘woman’ is unacceptable in the context of pregnancy and birth and menstruation, but absolutely fine in the context of sex crimes.

Placing the blame for evil in the world on women. It’s misogyny 101.

gorginabambina · 14/07/2021 06:46

Isn't it going to be odd now women sexual offender stats are going to rise.

Do you think they will pay a 'think tank' ridiculous amounts of money to figure out why?

Do they get recorded as women offences in the UK? Maybe we should all start tweeting Cressinda Dick and asking her.

Mummyoflittledragon · 14/07/2021 06:35

Adult male, allegedly human.

Mummyoflittledragon · 14/07/2021 06:31

[quote TalkingtoLangClegintheDark]Re the women’s prison question, bear in mind that many women’s prisons have mother and baby/child units. How happy this paedophile predator would be to find himself alongside one of those.

Some chilling testimony here from Canadian women who’ve found themselves in exactly that situation, from the Canada section of the Keep Prisons Single Sex website:

www.keep-prisons-single-sex.org.uk/canadian-women-speak-out[/quote]
Christ that is chilling reading. I know it’s happening and every time I read actual accounts, I’m shocked to the core.

BlackAlys · 14/07/2021 06:04

@Dozer

So some publications are not using the word ‘woman’ in articles about birth and women's health, and instead refer to ‘people’ or parts of anatomy, but are use ‘woman’ to describe a biologically male perpetrator of sex crime!
This.
JeansShirtJeansJacket · 14/07/2021 05:54

Perhaps he will choose to identify as a 6 year old. Then he wouldn't really have committed a crime at all.

This is all absolutely fucking ridiculous. I can't believe that it's all come to this. I think it's only going to get worse from here...

anon12345678901 · 14/07/2021 05:08

It's a man. Without any question, he is still a man. It needs to be reported as a man. Sent to jail in a men's jail.

leeshuhui · 14/07/2021 03:53

Woman by sex

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 14/07/2021 03:43

@DumplingsAndStew - yes. Over 50% of male prisoners who claim to be TW are listed as having at least one sexual offence against their name.
This is against the general percentage of 17% of male prisoners being convicted of sexual offences.

fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/

PearPickingPorky · 14/07/2021 03:36

@Sunshinealligator

... this needs to STOP. This is not a transgendered person. This is a person who decided to have a male haircut within days of this picture being taken. This is a male. It's a male. Why is this allowed to happen? I believe in rights for everyone, but for fucksake, whilst you have a penis attached to your body, you are a male. Can we not just stick to that very simple term? We can't continue to allow people who have penises to self identify as women, to occupy female spaces, or to sexually assault anyone, then be called a woman.

Please, can the world start to make sense again?

Even if a man loses his penis, he's still a man. Some of the most predatory males (who apparently "identify as women") have apparently had their penis removed but that doesn't make them women. It is my legally protected belief that a man who removed his penis is still a man. However, the reality is that over 99% of "transwomen" keep their penis so the genital point is moot, really.
PearPickingPorky · 14/07/2021 03:24

That's a man.

And this is exactly why it is a problem to force people to pretend that a man who says he's a woman is a woman, and let him have access to all the female-only places on his say-so.

I mean, everyone know that men would do this, didn't they.

Sunshinealligator · 14/07/2021 03:14

... this needs to STOP.
This is not a transgendered person. This is a person who decided to have a male haircut within days of this picture being taken.
This is a male. It's a male.
Why is this allowed to happen?
I believe in rights for everyone, but for fucksake, whilst you have a penis attached to your body, you are a male. Can we not just stick to that very simple term? We can't continue to allow people who have penises to self identify as women, to occupy female spaces, or to sexually assault anyone, then be called a woman.

Please, can the world start to make sense again?

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 14/07/2021 03:06

Of course it's a man.
And no amount of namecalling by the "allies" will change that.
It really doesn't help when the judiciary allow offenders and abusers a "free pass" because they claim to be trans - why on earth they think that setting THAT kind of precedent is a good idea beggars belief!

Male crime, performed by a male. Record it as such, bang him up as such.

StoppinBy · 14/07/2021 02:56

Astounding. Man. You do not get to hide behind any pretence for this kind of thing.

If he is offended by being called a man he should keep his grubby hands to himself and not assault poor children. Woman indeed! Disgusting.

YeokensYegg · 14/07/2021 02:35

That's a man.

Furries · 14/07/2021 02:30

[quote Justa47]@GreatBigBird

Disgraceful act but also is your drama around some one clearly trying to take advantage of a system.

Sick people everywhere does not mean trans people are bad.[/quote]
FFS - this is the basis of most of the discussion.

Nobody is trying to push a narrative that trans people are bad. But they are trying to highlight a few things - for me, the main ones are:

1). Self-Id means that any male can abuse the trans umbrella to gain access to areas they would not normally be allowed
2). Self-id means that any males don’t even need to access what are/were female only spaces. As long as they identify as female, they can do what they like.
3). If they are caught for “doing what they like” then there is every possibility that they will be convicted and sent to a women-only prison

Honestly, can you not even vaguely see this worry? This is not about targeting the trans community. This is about men who will use the rights that the trans community have, rightly, got to exploit to their own advantage.

pallisers · 14/07/2021 02:27

@RainbowMum11

Does it really matter - a child was assaulted and that isn't ok irrespective of the perpetrator
you seriously don't think it matters that the child will be told he was assaulted by a woman when he was clearly assaulted by a man?

Or that the crime will be recorded as having being committed by a woman instead of a man?

Seriously? "that isn't ok" is all you can say about this?

Furries · 14/07/2021 02:18

@RainbowMum11

Does it really matter - a child was assaulted and that isn't ok irrespective of the perpetrator
It definitely isn’t ok that a child was assaulted.

It definitely DOES matter who the perpetrator was.

Let’s forget about crime figures being skewed, people with a penis being in female prisons etc.

Focus on the fact that that young child is going to be doubly traumatised. Firstly by the assault And then by the fact that they’re going to be told - over and over again - that it was a woman who did that to them. I can’t even begin to comprehend the ways in which that could/will screw up any and every interaction they have with anyone in their life going forward (whether sexual or not).

Justa47 · 14/07/2021 02:09

@GreatBigBird

Disgraceful act but also is your drama around some one clearly trying to take advantage of a system.

Sick people everywhere does not mean trans people are bad.