Colin Pitchfork will be released

Why was my post deleted? Is it really that horrific to call for the death of a man who does not deserve to live?
Hmmmm I wander why I spend so much more time on the website where people farm fuzzy fruit?

Thanks for the reply @Lockheart.

The sentencing guidelines are published on the CPS website.

I was under the impression until recently that a convicted murderer would never be released with the UK system. I was obviously wrong.
Did any one else assume the same?

[quote Whatflavourjellybabyisnice]"Killer David McGreavy who hung child bodies on a fence cleared for release | The Scotsman" www.scotsman.com/news/crime/killer-david-mcgreavy-who-hung-child-bodies-fence-cleared-release-196057?amp[/quote]
Jesus what have I just read. How can anybody think that someone who could do a thing like that would ever be safe in the community? What a world we live in

"Killer David McGreavy who hung child bodies on a fence cleared for release | The Scotsman" www.scotsman.com/news/crime/killer-david-mcgreavy-who-hung-child-bodies-fence-cleared-release-196057?amp

This case reminds me a little of David McGreavy because he too was released recently and he killed a family of beautiful children. Disgusting.

I hugely disagree that he should be released but I'm guessing that the reason has alot to do with finance.
Think of the amount of prison places available. I've heard that only a third of the people that should be incarcerated are actually.
It costs a collosal amount in security and such to house these offenders.
Even with this in mind, I very much wish for him to be kept in.
However, it's been said that he is going to be watched very closely when he is let out and will require supervision in some amount and a intense risk assessment will have taken place. He is going to be very heavily monitored and will be restricted to certain areas.
That will cost a fortune and makes me question whether or not they should just keep the bastard in prison. The legal system doesn't work like that though, sadly.

He had a previous history of sexual assault. His sentence was only something like 12 or 14 years too, but I think there is something in the sentencing to say he would be kept in custody afterwards

You are right, he got 12 years for the rape. Had a history of sex offending before the rape. Tried to claim mental illness as a defence. The recent sentencing includes a requirement for preventive custody (or preventive detention) which is based solely on the dangerousness of the offender, rather than the guilt of the offender (although he is guilty too, obviously). It is used as a purely preventive measure for the protection of the general public.

I don't know any more about how it works in detail, but that's the gist.

“MummBraTheEverLeaking
Why can nothing be done to ensure he never sees outside of a cell again, why? Why are there not special circumstances to override outdated laws in favour of people who should never ever be released? “

There has been a case in the news recently about a man in Munich, wearing a wolf mask, who raped an 11 year old girl in broad daylight- dragging her into bushes.

He had a previous history of sexual assault. His sentence was only something like 12 or 14 years too, but I think there is something in the sentencing to say he would be kept in custody afterwards.

I am not sure what that means or how it would work. Perhaps another poster would know German laws relating to this approach.4

I read Allison Bailey's tweets this morning about her opinion on this and what that sick depraved fuck did, absolutely horrible. Those poor girls

If there happens to be a situation where he is found by vigilantes, well, I wouldn't be standing in their way put it like that.

Why can nothing be done to ensure he never sees outside of a cell again, why? Why are there not special circumstances to override outdated laws in favour of people who should never ever be released?

Parole Board need to hang their heads in shame.

Supposedly when asked his motives, he just said "Opportunity. She was there and I was there". Great person to put back out on the streets then

Two lives for the price of one. What a lucky man he is. I hope those responsible for his release are correct and he won't reoffend. I find it hard to fathom the mind of a man who could commit such despicably cruel acts, and how much he could change for the better.

We remember you Lynda Mann and Dawn Ashworth

He's done a shit load of time.

Loads of men get released after fuck all time having done awful things.

The system needs reforming when it comes to ALL men convicted of sex offences/ DV etc. The public protection needs to come first.

The famous ones there's outcry but there's so many more.

How on earth can they tell that he is no longer a risk to women and girls? If only we could tell as easily who are the dangerous ones. With this man’s history it is clear that he is unlikely to change . I’d be really interested to know how he is going to be monitored and by whom.. I have no trust that we will be safe.

[quote Trevors]Why wasn’t it a “whole life order” in the first place? It fits these criteria
Whole life order starting point – the ‘exceptionally high' seriousness category

“The starting point is a whole life order where the seriousness of the offence (or of the offence and other associated offences) is ‘exceptionally high’ and the defendant was aged 21 or over when the offence was committed. Cases that would normally fall into this category include: (a) the murder of two or more people where each murder involves a substantial degree of premeditation/planning, abduction of the victim, or sexual or sadistic conduct; (b) the murder of a child involving the abduction of the child or sexual or sadistic motivation”
www.defence-barrister.co.uk/life-sentences[/quote]
Nowadays it would be probable he would get a whole life order.

However, he was sentenced in the 80s, when the laws were very different. He got the maximum he could get at the time, which was a life sentence with a minimum 30 year custodial term.

A whole life order was not an option available to the judge in the late 80s. We can't apply changes to sentencing guidelines retroactively.

@ArabellaStrange I couldn’t agree more, only, who is going to do it? The law protects him.

@AssassinatedBeauty
Thanks for your reply. I wasn’t asking as a way of criticising I was just wondering if it had been shunted into the naughty corner Sex and gender debate topic.

Because this shitstain is a MAN and he raped and killed WOMEN. The sex of both the killer and the victims are relevant, because only a man can do what this bastard did, and women are at risk from men because of our sex.

Can we not get sidetracked into MNHQs daft little square dance. If the naice feminists who frequent Feminist Chat want to start a thread on this they are free to. The OP posted it here and doesn't want it moved.

Why the heck is this in sex and gender??
This is 'mainstream violence of a man against women and girls'.
How can the authorities even consider releasing this man??