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CoconutGlaze · 09/07/2021 00:11

www.losangelesblade.com/2021/07/07/alleged-trans-incident-at-upscale-la-spa-may-have-been-staged/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&cf_chl_jschl_tk=5829536c8d2fa7597130f41074d1ff4ddc091aee-1625785481-0-AcMexoncOasqbydtxZLnvW3kf86pvnmRUcmnFRJO3kDQTTPi3WE1pqsYEciE_bUv0_NrLqCEBB07kbXA9xARnFe7KkItHOoJesYdjEC6fhZlzSdZR5jNea3Hx86Run4GtO5awEU3NnavY0JvTjYrnAVNCm8tEidf1SMMw3N5siRBk8qD1VNkFgE5cpMkcjvQeRQOADtTSBAxPmJBCYcnt9-8vGTpjCqttCRHPJpNcOTVZ1yeJUoMKwXTMHx6TYPRXfLtl9iMGeP4hL9uTYPEGTlrpO9oNuwAKavdw2-gxpOKI_xUiq2v9Du5DREcmzRyp0Hbw663FPxWtUH30wzqS_uBK7ghaCwgVJq80Jqm_6IrKuwhmZZ8v63Pz43HNOLM_Z_LDzQaSLaudEQf8hcoUFVdcbQMtr1ZG0MPaesDmdB4iEDbdrdpR_yjmAZ0Pv1v151venXcbcYpUYyEtdcU8_kRH-iv2XYtf7vdtY_vfuu3DyzzvhXUk31-zNSYJlPMkVbHzQkZkuQMw4yQy7XsOSaoMPKRTgsJORo6DtRdu5NMqMu8190zks0sRxJeosg8KWSjnO33FKQXycbDay-9eGQagXI2tsfaurfG3jb2p3SV-f8fzRSwfCOf8C9-TmWrow#Echobox=1625710145

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Outbutnotoutout · 11/07/2021 09:22

Can someone link the "it will never happen" website.

I think it was called that or "it never happens"

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 11/07/2021 09:11

Some fine upstanding person on the right side of history, & also on Twitter, is demanding that people scrutinise & correctly sex a pair of pictures he's found somewhere of the genitals of two people with DSDs.

Yes, I saw that, too!

I am very certain I know which is which, but I haven't commented because I think it's so disrespectful of him to use people's medical conditions like that. I do not want to feed such a ghoulish troll.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/07/2021 08:38

I think they are now playing to their own crowd. However easily debunked their lies are there are going to be quite a few people that, as they culturally identify as 'left' this will be enough to confirm their own biases.

They are, like they are still repeating the same lies about Maria McLachlan spread by TRAs four years ago. And never seem to have bothered to watch the video.

dyslek · 11/07/2021 08:29

I think they are now playing to their own crowd. However easily debunked their lies are there are going to be quite a few people that, as they culturally identify as 'left' this will be enough to confirm their own biases.

EyesOpening · 11/07/2021 08:04

EyesOpening
I think I've understood now:
it didn't happen, women are liars
but if it did, it's ok
but as it didn't, it's not ok if it did
and if it did. it was a man
but as it didn't, the person was a TW
and the customers were explicitly told that a TW was going in,
except it didn't happen

Makes perfect sense now I'm incapable of thinking coherently

You missed

If it did happen it's obviously fine and children should be raised to understand it's normal to be naked around naked adults they don't know.

Sorry yes:
Children should get used to seeing different types of “female genitalia” except they shouldn’t look

CrazyNeighbour · 11/07/2021 06:32

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Aparallaxia · 11/07/2021 03:22

Sorry, wrong post! I was replying to CuriousaboutSamphire's post at Sat 10-Jul-21 13:29:09. Obviously something happened to my brain. I blame Curious's GC nachos for this violent assault.

Aparallaxia · 11/07/2021 03:18

@Helleofabore

Sorry Datun. I know you were.

I started answering in the same tone the wandered off.

I went into a state of carbohydrate-fuelled euphoria just reading that post.
NiceGerbil · 11/07/2021 03:13

It's super woke to get pics of strangers with medical conditions and put them on Twitter and ask strangers to judge their appearance.

Awesome.

CorvusPurpureus · 11/07/2021 03:02

Oh yeah. About that.

Some fine upstanding person on the right side of history, & also on Twitter, is demanding that people scrutinise & correctly sex a pair of pictures he's found somewhere of the genitals of two people with DSDs.

So far - somewhat to his disappointment - there's a 100% accuracy rate in passers-by being able to tell a micropenis from an enlarged clitoris.

But yep, 8) is definitely going to have to be Looking At Random Genitals You Bunch Of Perverts.

PrincessNutella · 11/07/2021 02:52

Dyslek--she and Laurie F-ing Penney

NiceGerbil · 11/07/2021 02:46

Bodies come in all shapes and sizes stop body shaming!!

NiceGerbil · 11/07/2021 02:46

You missed.

Why are you looking at other people's genitals you perve!

If you can't cope with seeing naked people in a naked spa then don't go! You've got hangups about nudity. Maybe address those.

CorvusPurpureus · 11/07/2021 02:12

So if I happened to be enjoying a spa day that day:

  1. I would have been appropriately & professionally informed that I'd be sharing the naked areas of the spa with a fellow lady who might have a semi erect penis on display in front of small girls & that's FINE
  2. that didn't happen but some nasty lady pretended it did & got the staff to act along with her. She was obviously lying, or she'd have got her phone out of the pockets in her naked bum & filmed the willy.
  3. it's mostly the fault of women in the UK that some bloke in the US attacked another bloke because
  4. it's all heinous lies spread by witches
  5. none of it happened anyway you bigots
  6. it's probably safest to blame whatever definitely didn't happen on Julie Bindel.
  7. however, as a general principle, small female children should simultaneously be given the opportunity to admire semi erect male genitals, whilst also being chastised for not averting their gaze.

Am I up to speed yet?

NiceGerbil · 11/07/2021 01:38

@EyesOpening

I think I've understood now: it didn't happen, women are liars but if it did, it's ok but as it didn't, it's not ok if it did and if it did. it was a man but as it didn't, the person was a TW and the customers were explicitly told that a TW was going in, except it didn't happen.

Makes perfect sense now I'm incapable of thinking coherently

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If it did happen it's obviously fine and children should be raised to understand it's normal to be naked around naked adults they don't know.

alkanet · 11/07/2021 01:20

They've sure got the hang of trying to knit fog. Nonsense.

EyesOpening · 11/07/2021 00:49

I think I've understood now:
it didn't happen, women are liars
but if it did, it's ok
but as it didn't, it's not ok if it did
and if it did. it was a man
but as it didn't, the person was a TW
and the customers were explicitly told that a TW was going in,
except it didn't happen.

Makes perfect sense now I'm incapable of thinking coherently

theThreeofWeevils · 11/07/2021 00:30

Pray to God, sailor, but row for the shore Create confusion and hope for a sudden plague of squirrels?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 11/07/2021 00:22

But if it's all OK, why insist that it didn't happen?

This

OldCrone · 11/07/2021 00:15

@Wildgarlicpesto

Sally Hines still promoting the hoax whitewashing. mobile.twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1413897075926908929

Why is she so desparate for it not to be true when she is in complete agreement with male genitalia identifying as female?

The article in that tweet says that there was no male bodied person in the women's spa and it was all a hoax. But goes on to say that if there had been a male bodied person in there with penis and testicles exposed, that would have been fine because TWAW and they are allowed in women's spaces. But on this occasion it definitely didn't happen and the woman made it all up.

But if it's all OK, why insist that it didn't happen?

NiceGerbil · 10/07/2021 23:30

Like I don't understand how the idea that it didn't happen because an anonymous source says the police have looked for reports and there aren't any is case closed.

  1. IT'S LEGAL!!! WHY THE HELL WOULD THERE BE ANY REPORTS??!! ITS LEGAL BECAUSE THAT'S IS WHAT YOU WANTED AND YOU GOT IT IN THIS USA STATE
  1. Anonymous source
  1. Police looked into it? Hunted for reports? It's LEGAL. and I'm to believe that a presumably busy force would waste time looking for reports of someone doing something legal?!

I mean it's such obvious drivel. And yet. Yep. Hoax!!!

NiceGerbil · 10/07/2021 23:27

@dyslek

Because its so obviously a pervy guy who gets off in 'flashing' that the movement wants to distance themselfs from what has happends but because they are tied to anyone who says they are trans is trans they cant.
I don't understand... I just don't understand.

I don't understand why so many women not only accepted but loudly argued that none of this totally obvious stuff would happen.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 10/07/2021 23:12

So where is the activists' opinion pendulum now?

Over the last 24 hours it's been wildly swinging in between "such a thing would be absolutely terrible but we don't believe it happened" and "yeah, it happened and so what? Why shouldn't a little girl see a she-penis (shenis?) in the jacuzzi next to her?"

dyslek · 10/07/2021 22:47

Because its so obviously a pervy guy who gets off in 'flashing' that the movement wants to distance themselfs from what has happends but because they are tied to anyone who says they are trans is trans they cant.

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