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Article about WiSpa incident *title edited by MNHQ*

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CoconutGlaze · 09/07/2021 00:11

www.losangelesblade.com/2021/07/07/alleged-trans-incident-at-upscale-la-spa-may-have-been-staged/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&cf_chl_jschl_tk=5829536c8d2fa7597130f41074d1ff4ddc091aee-1625785481-0-AcMexoncOasqbydtxZLnvW3kf86pvnmRUcmnFRJO3kDQTTPi3WE1pqsYEciE_bUv0_NrLqCEBB07kbXA9xARnFe7KkItHOoJesYdjEC6fhZlzSdZR5jNea3Hx86Run4GtO5awEU3NnavY0JvTjYrnAVNCm8tEidf1SMMw3N5siRBk8qD1VNkFgE5cpMkcjvQeRQOADtTSBAxPmJBCYcnt9-8vGTpjCqttCRHPJpNcOTVZ1yeJUoMKwXTMHx6TYPRXfLtl9iMGeP4hL9uTYPEGTlrpO9oNuwAKavdw2-gxpOKI_xUiq2v9Du5DREcmzRyp0Hbw663FPxWtUH30wzqS_uBK7ghaCwgVJq80Jqm_6IrKuwhmZZ8v63Pz43HNOLM_Z_LDzQaSLaudEQf8hcoUFVdcbQMtr1ZG0MPaesDmdB4iEDbdrdpR_yjmAZ0Pv1v151venXcbcYpUYyEtdcU8_kRH-iv2XYtf7vdtY_vfuu3DyzzvhXUk31-zNSYJlPMkVbHzQkZkuQMw4yQy7XsOSaoMPKRTgsJORo6DtRdu5NMqMu8190zks0sRxJeosg8KWSjnO33FKQXycbDay-9eGQagXI2tsfaurfG3jb2p3SV-f8fzRSwfCOf8C9-TmWrow#Echobox=1625710145

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Sophoclesthefox · 10/07/2021 12:27

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Because they can't give a credible answer. They aren't here to debate, they are here to make scripted pronouncements in order to convert the heretics.
And then, ironically, head back to their own echo chambers to complain how this is a nacho chamber…
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/07/2021 12:19

Because they can't give a credible answer. They aren't here to debate, they are here to make scripted pronouncements in order to convert the heretics.

alkanet · 10/07/2021 12:17

Can anyone tell me why they never come back if you ask a direct question?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/07/2021 12:17

@PurpleHoodie

I think their comments should stand.

For the whole world to see.

I agree. Sadly I suspect MNHQ have to delete otherwise they can't say the different moderation rules are fair to "both sides"
dyslek · 10/07/2021 12:13

Reading anti woman hate drives me crazy (which is why I just scroll by now) but I have never reported anything as, yes, its best they are left for all to see.

Helleofabore · 10/07/2021 12:07

I think nearly all the posts have been captured and contained within other’s posts though. I think I have a screenshot of two of those posts too.

I acknowledge I have a rather ‘pedantic’ posting style. It is most likely annoying to read Grin. I do that for a reason though as a seasoned reader of these threads that end up Swiss cheese….

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 12:00

Don’t piss on womens legs and tell us it’s raining.

On a feminist board.

Yes. This.

Sophoclesthefox · 10/07/2021 11:59

“Most people are discrete (sic) about their bits”, are they?

I’ve counted up and I’ve been flashed six times in my life. I never once reported these. I never once filmed them. Most women don’t, because we are given the message that it is not serious, and we should laugh it off, no matter how distressed or upset we are. Those men were not discreet about their body parts. Many men are not. Don’t piss on womens legs and tell us it’s raining.

On a feminist board.

Datun · 10/07/2021 11:59

The comments that were deleted out right accused women here of being responsible for the violence visited on the female protesters at Wi Spa.

Faux outrage that of course gender critical rhetoric and women are responsible for the antifa thuggery. And we should be ashamed.

It's amazing how once they get going, the anger at women proliferates and emboldens.

If it hasn't already, it will lead to banning obviously.

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 11:49

Lurkers learn.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 10/07/2021 11:48

how sad that their sexist bullshit got deleted. it was very illuminating

and sad that they get to come here, behave like misogynist pigs, rile posters up and then destroy the evidence. hardly fair

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 11:47

I think their comments should stand.

For the whole world to see.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/07/2021 11:45

Sorry, MNHQ or the Monitors doing damage control!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/07/2021 11:45

No! They were perfectly good comments. They illustrated the mindset perfectly.

If anyone did report them speak up... I want to know if it is MNHQ doing some damage control!

Greencoatblue · 10/07/2021 11:36

Trans-males are males?
^^

It's odd isn't it that transmales aren't gaining a reputation for male pattern aggression? It's almost like they retain their female socialisation even after transitioning.

Floisme · 10/07/2021 11:34

I'm disappointed to see that some of Steph751 and statsgeek's posta have been deleted. I think it would have been illuminating to have left them up so that everyone could read their opinions.

BaronMunchausen · 10/07/2021 11:23

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RedDogsBeg · 10/07/2021 11:22

@Greencoatblue

The primary message I get is that there is an awful lot of male pattern aggression coming from some transwomen, I wonder why?
and misogyny and victim blaming by the bucket load, odd that.
PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 11:10

Trans-males are males?

Greencoatblue · 10/07/2021 11:00

The primary message I get is that there is an awful lot of male pattern aggression coming from some transwomen, I wonder why?

PurpleHoodie · 10/07/2021 10:38

Men need to accept gender non-conforming males in their spaces.

That is trans acceptance.

Datun · 10/07/2021 10:38

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Yeah, I'm over that too. If I had a penny for every TRA who says no one wants to show their penis, in response to men showing their penis...

And as if by clockwork...

IKR? I don't know if it's just the calibre of people who plop on here, but honest to God, my estimation of the opposite sex has taken something of a dive since engaging with them over this issue. I know NAMALT, but bloody hell, it's so prevalent.

As a better woman than I said, the idiocy of the TRA movement is possibly the most offensive thing about it.

It's the endless repetition of stuff that everyone, including them, knows is nonsense.

No one, on the planet, would address the issue of indecent exposure with yeah, but no one I know does it.

Yet this is repeated. Endlessly.

It's so idiotic.

Tinysalmonswimminginastream · 10/07/2021 10:37

@MishyJDI

This whole thing smacks of a setup. She was all set up to go to film the staff at the front counter, yet got no filming of the alleged perpetrator, or description other than a "penis".

The staff indicate there did not seem to be any trans people in the facility on the day.

And quite frankly, the trans people I have met are most discrete around their bits, like any other person. They generally dont wangle them about in public and prefer individual changing rooms.

This one just don't smell right at all.

So do you or do you not think that there should be dicks out in a female changing room?

Because that is the issue here.

alkanet · 10/07/2021 10:31

What I would like to ask Mishy, Steph and Stats is how do you suggest this problem is solved? How do you ensure that women & girls who don't want to see an unexpected penis don't have to see it. And how do you balance this with the needs of pre-op transwomen? It's easy to criticise, but what do you think the solution is?

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 10/07/2021 10:25

god this whole mess is caused by trying to pretend that men aren't men and women aren't women

all 'man' and 'woman' tell you about is a person's body. it doesn't tell you if they're kind, or modest, or assertive or emotional. It's not pejorative or judgemental. it just refers to which type of body you have.

but men can't be women and women can't be men. the mess and the pain and the damage caused by trying to pretend otherwise is boggling.

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