Lesbian women thrown out of German Dyke March

ArtemesiaK Read up on what happened to Michfest. It's shocking.

Michfest was a lesbian festival that had been going for decades. The TRAs got it shut down because it wouldn't allow males. In fact, some claim that males had been allowed in but activists tried shutting down any event they felt was male-exclusionary.

I can't imagine a gay men's festival being shut down because it wouldn't admit females. They wouldn't get anything like the same level of threats and intimidation.

Tbf I think overwhealmingly women do. Pro why they are so bitter.

No.

Woman are quite capable of being angry, without being bitter.

Its encoded in our DNA due to - reasons

Bingo on one post! Amazing!

I really appreciate the answers I've had from you all on here.
Apologies again @OvaHere

I shall get lurking on this board. Although I'm feeling rage and confusion over the craziness of it all. I used the think I was quite cool and now I'm feeling old and weary.

All you can do is understand and support. I cant imagine how hard it is.

Women are making headway though. The LGB Alliance, Get the L out, etc.

Homosexual orientation is under attack. Just like women in general. But more and more people are becoming aware of exactly how pernicious the ideology is.

Is someone seriously suggesting that lesbians not liking penis is some “purifying exercise”?

That is absurd. It is not a narrowing of the definition, it is the definition.

Stonewall support this

Stonewall are now, on their own well worn written record, as being Anti-Women. Anti-homosexual. Anti-Lesbian. Anti-gay.

They want to have sex with women, because they are heterosexual. But heterosexual women only have sex with men. So they don't want those women because it doesn't validate the idea that they themselves are a woman.

So the cohort that works is lesbians.

Lesbians are woman so tick the right sex that they want to have sex with. And lesbians only have sex with women, so the self image is preserved.

The problem is that lesbians don't do dick.

But That's something they don't give a shit about, especially as they can now rename those women 'genital fetishists

Stonewall support this

All women: Lesbian, bi-sexual AND heterosexual need to reject these men and their pals. Say "No" in personal settings. You don't owe them an explanation it's because you know/suspect they are women hating prats.

Yup. Now there's shaming of women who are actually lesbians. It's all quite familiar.

Men aren't a 'subset' of lesbians. HTH.

Over the decades there have always unfortunately been subsets of lesbians that have tried to shame others amongst them.

There was shaming women that 'dressed like men.'

There was shaming women that used toys during sex

There was shaming bisexuals for selling out the lesbian community.

There have always attempts to purify the classification, which, when thinking of other historic occasions of attempt to purify social groups, is a bit worrying to my mind.

Nothing new to see here, very sadly.

@Skybluepinkgiraffe sorry if I was confusing. Everything in this is confusing.

I just feel very strongly that a lesbian woman should be able to go to a lesbian bar or an online date with a lesbian and be fairly sure that there won’t be a “penis surprise” lurking.

I am happily married to a penis haver myself and not looking for anyone else. But if I was single and for some reason doing online dating, I would be quite alarmed if the “man” I was dating turned out to have a vagina. Luckily, I have never heard of a womanvagina owner doing this.

There's a lovely site called www.positivelylesbian.org/
Which I hope is going to go towards building a community for younger lesbians where they can be truly proud to be who they are without feeling they must be circumspect for the sake of those who are not lesbians. It's a lonely, tough place to be when your peer group would cast you out for being clear about your boundaries.

Keep being a good mum, that'll go a long way.

I'm sorry to derail your thread @OvaHere
I've read your link now

I get the impression that my DD would only want a relationship with a female, but has friends who are 'queer' and so she's quite defensive about the whole thing. It's confusing and frustrating not being able to discuss it with her (she's late 20s so not a child who i need to protect) I've been told to educate myself but I can't ask questions (well, I think I can, but not any that might sound critical. Those are generally met with a flounce)
It's quite upsetting.

But there are lots of lesbians of the 'old' kind ready to have sex with lesbians with a lady penis.

There aren't that many, no, in practice. Funny that what people say isn't always what they mean.

Thank you for clarifying @FloralBunting
I'm very alarmed at all this. Dd is a lesbian and I really had no idea about any of this. I tend to get my head snapped off if I ask questions around this trans thing in my family. I seem to be wrong whatever I say.

Imagine my surprise that I was proved right about the thread visitor and the argument offered.

It's almost like I have a sixth sense about homophobia turning up where lesbians say no. Spooky.

I hope i have the terminology right, sorry, I read the rules but I'm new to this.

Did you mean 'and or 'or @BatmansBat?
If it's 'or', I have tended to have sex with penis havers (I have never had a penis of my own) and I refer to myself as straight.
DH has a penis and he also refers to himself as straight.
What did you have in mind, or were you referring to penis having women who enjoy sex with non-penis- having women?

I'm not sure why everyone in their Twitter echo chambers thinks us lesbians want a "female penis" or just a penis in general regardless of what it's attached to 🤮 I mean call me crazy everyone knows what a lesbian is, yes?