#RepealTheGRA apparently 'hails from the right

I would posit that the GRA's provisions are largely symbolic and superfluous at this stage.

"Far right" has become the merely the latest insult of choice since "Your Mother Was A Hamster And Your Father Smelt Of Elderberries" was first coined.

It makes less sense and lacks the wit too.

It's a shame Ruth thinks it will be effective, because I'm pretty sure she knows it isn't true. Not worth selling your credibility for an insult that demeans you more than your intended target.

"If you won't recognise gender you're far right" sounds so unhinged.

I've been writing about repealing the GRA for years.
Far right my bottom.

It's fun that you're all talking about getting rid of our rights (and many don't seem to understand the GRA at all) whilst being worried about being called 'right wing'

I have read the GRA, it's main purpose is to falsify a birth certificate. I am unconvinced of the need for this. Can you explain why a birth certificate stating an incorrect fact is needed as a right?

And I couldn't care less about being called right wing, it's simply factually incorrect, and I really like facts to be correct.

What utter privilege. This is why you get called Prosecco Stormfront.

That's a new one, who is calling us that, and why? I mean, I don't think I've noticed people mention Prosecco here often, and stormfront suggests something physically violent, again not something ever suggested here.

It's the lack of accuracy that annoys me.

As I understand it the most broadly used trans rights are those under the equality act. Being able to state that an XY transwoman is a woman is a conflicting right.

Privilege is obviously completely back to front. Did the nine-year-old girl in the Korean spa feel privileged when she was confronted by a male bodied individual spreading his legs and showing her his genitalia?

How about the women ousted from the Olympics because the son of a billionaire, who was until seven years ago competing in the men's, is now competing as a female?
Care to hazard a guess which one of those two has the privilege?

And, perhaps you don't know, but our government issued a consultation about the GRA and the possibility of self ID, and have subsequently rejected it entirely, all on the basis of the rational arguments from women.

Perhaps you don't know as much as you think you do about it?

It's fun that you're all talking about getting rid of our rights (and many don't seem to understand the GRA at all) whilst being worried about being called 'right wing'

I'm certainly not 'worried' about what anyone calls me. Water off a duck's back, all these childish, baseless accusations.

When women's rights are being stripped from us, you better believe we're going to try and do something about it.

I don't know how you can bring up 'privilege'. I bet those women in prison certainly aren't feeling that right now. They've just been told that what males want is more important than their right to dignity and safety, even if those males are rapists/sex offenders.

''Privileged''. Sure

So few of the estimated number of transpeople have a grc, there must be questions around if it's of any benefit to the majority of trans people, anyway.

I'm still forming an opinion on this issue so I'll listen to any coherent arguments as to why the GRA should remain in its current form.
I have to warn you though that 'Far right bigot' and 'Prosecco Stormfront' don't really cut it.

t's fun that you're all talking about getting rid of our rights

Women are expected to not only deal with the political lobby who have got rid of many of our sex based rights and are vigorously targeting more, but are not supposed to complain about it or stand up against it as 'hateful'.

The GRA is not compatible with sex based rights for women.

I'm so lefty, I am even left handed. I'd repeal it in an instant if it was my choice.

Sorry Ova, that was to SecretTransTwitterEngineer.

I want to know what rights they think are required. Is it, for instance, the right of a transwomen to go into the single sex section of a sauna?

Or is it the right not to be fired for wearing a frock?

What rights do you mean, specifically? Can you say them in words of one syllable?

It's just very bad legislation.

Here is an Act that many politicians at the time warned would have devastating consequences. Those in favour of the Act argued those things would never happen and the bill passed largely on that basis.

Now all those things have happened and worse, those politicians who were in opposition to it were proven right.

That's why it's bad law and should be repealed. It's not a left/right thing it's a not fit for purpose thing.

It's fun that you're all talking about getting rid of our rights (and many don't seem to understand the GRA at all) whilst being worried about being called 'right wing'. What utter privilege. This is why you get called Prosecco Stormfront. Thankfully, given that other countries are expanding trans people rights (and already 600-700 million live in countries with self-ID), it would seem unlikely that your social conservatism (whilst can be left or right) will come to much.

The problem with the GRA is that it forces people to lie, and ignores the needs and rights of everyone to whom the Act does not apply. It is nothing to do with which way your politics lie.

When Serwotka says “right wing” it just mens anyone who is not a Labour Party member.

Given the Labour party is no longer left wing, and have lost all understanding of class based inequalities and structural analysis, in favour of identity politics, “left wing” is to those people just another self-identity. It is politically meningless.

This is also a most peculiar time for Serwotka to nail her male supremacy supporting colours to the mast. As the tide is beginning to turn, she pledges allegiance to men.

She seems to be politically stupid, which makes me suspect tht was always the reason Union and Labour party men allowed her into positions of influence. She would ultimately be a good girl and do what the men want. Never mind Ruth, women are moving on without you.

I don't understand why ideas like being able to falsify your birth record are seen as left wing. Is that sort of individualism which doesn't take any account of other members of society normally considered to be left wing?

I see a lot of this amongst trade unionists (and I'm one myself!) any failure is always put down to insufficient left wing purity.

As others have said, I don't think old school ideas around Left or Right are particularly helpful here, but they certainly are useful for those on both sides who want to "virtue signal" to their own tribe.

That's a good point. I think for women like Ruth being called "right wing" would be the worst thing they could imagine.

What's wrong with not being left wing anyway? Don't non-left wing women and children matter too? Or is feminism only for the benefit of those on the left?

Soz - RS not RW