#RepealTheGRA apparently 'hails from the right

I am getting increasingly worried about current social situation and am not keen any other adults to raise my children.

Not keen on looking after any additional males (or children) either… Maybe you need to get into this at a young age?

I could see a living with other (sensible) women when I am old if something happens to DH. Lots of adults pulling their weight

Yeah I was pretty young at the time but I remember thinking it sounded like a great way of ensuring an ongoing supply of young nubile women for the men, while the women whose tits had started sagging would be left to bring up everyone else's kids.

Presumably Ruth didn't fancy it much either as she seems to have ended up in a traditional family unit.

As I remember, the idea was that commune-style living would replace the family unit, although why this would be a better deal for women was never clear to me.

Something like a kibbutz perhaps? Everyone has to hand over their children for centralised rearing, the patriarchal and matriarchal ties, concept of "ownership" of one's children is cut, as is the concept of financially supporting only your own. The adults work as equals in the collective, furthering the economic aims of the whole group.

To be honest, I can see the point of making different family configurations more visible. Families come in all shapes and sizes.

But to me, a same sex couple with children would also be a family unit. And I don’t see anything worse with a heterosexual couple than a homosexual couple.

I do think that if possible, it is better with two adults (mainly based on my experience growing up with a single parent, it was hard on my dad).

But why would this be something to abolish? And I agree, what would it be replaced with?

I've always wondered what people who want to abolish the family unit want to replace it with (assuming the human race wants to continue to reproduce).

Abolishing the family unit was quite a thing among some second wave feminists - it was another reason why we didn't get along so well.

Completely missing the point here but why should the family unit be abolished? Families comes in all shapes, what is inherently bad with two adults and a child/children?

Ruth is is socialist in the feminist sense as well. This means that there is plenty of overlap with genderism in her views. For example, she agrees with them about heteronormativity being A Very Bad Thing and with BLM that the family is an irretrievably patriarchal institution that should be abolished.

This attitude appears to be at odds with the way she lives her life. She is married to a man, with whom she has children, and they presumably live as a family unit. Why does she do this if she thinks the idea of family is so oppressive?

I just had to drop back in to say how stunned I am that someone who wants to abolish the family unit (a social grouping that is completely normal in mammals), thinks its plausible that women who refuse to arrange our social groupings around the belief that humans can change sex (something that is never found in mammals) must be right wing bigots.

I don't understand how anyone can hold both views at the same time. Look forwards to a plain English explanation from anyone who gets it.

Message from MNHQ: Hi all, and thanks for the reports. We've taken this thread down now. Parts of the OP clearly break our guidelines on civil debate. We'll be in touch with the OP off the boards.

Wasn't your OP just a C&P of the twitter thread? Are we not allowed to c&p from another source now? I thought that was allowed as long as it was made clear that it was copied directly from elsewhere.

I've occasionally posted something copied from another site which I know would break the special rules if I had written it myself, but I thought this was OK to do if I made sure it was clear it was quoted text and I provided a link to the source. In any case, AFAIK, those posts have been left to stand.

Heads up on GRA stuff. My post/thread with Vulvamort's brilliant twitter thread on repealing the GRA has been taken down by Mumsnet!

They said:
"In this case, we deleted your post because this section,"'There are no 'trans' people'uses language about transgender people that we feel is uncivil."

JKR couldn't be more fantastic if she was actually a wizard, tbh.

Oh I'd forgotten all about that thread 😂
I ♥️ JKR

This is hilarious 🤣 🤣🤣

But seriously, what is wrong with these people? What kind of a person puts glitter on their penis, photographs it and emails it to a stranger???

"She only rated that one as a 5 because it had been rolled in glitter. "

Thank you for reminding me of the JK Rowling’s tweets on this.

“I have started to give ratings out of 10. Nobody has scored higher than a 5 so far” 🤣🤣🤣

From Erishkigal's link chickenyhead

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1280189282913787907?s=20

The whole thread of response is very funny, complete with lots of petulant anime avatar types.

Although I'm proper pissing myself further down that thread which asks is getting pregnant transphobic?

The response is it depends, because some cis women will make the decision to get pregnant out of unconscious transphobic spite 😂😂

And then concludes so the answer to your question is we don't really know.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

They don't really know