Emma Corrin daily mail

She isn’t wearing an actual binder in those photos she’s wearing boxing wrappings (an unsafe or perhaps a more unsafe thing to bind with) which is my only issue with those photos. She’s small chested enough she doesn’t need to bind but if she wants to then the brand linked is massively into harm reduction and safe binding strategies. The only real study conducted into the safety of binding itself notes that it can’t account for the self reported risks binding poses and suggests people wearing multiple binders at one time is likely to blame.

All of DD female friend group at school have a variety of trans IDs.

DD started wearing 2 bra tops to school.

I said oh are you trying to bind? It's not very safe. How about we get a sports bra they squash them in and are designed for it.

Looked on shop.

She didn't want any.

She stopped wearing 2.

I always say ok fine if they want to do GNC stuff. DD would only wear boys clothes when she was pre secondary. Even if the girls ones were the same. It was the label.

I went though a period of despising 'girls' things.

I noticed how I was treated and I didn't like it. From tiny. She got the same message.

She got periods young (before year 6,) and she's very observant. She rejected 'girl'. And who can blame her? I felt the same.

She seems fine now. I still don't care what she wears etc.

I think the shitshow that is female puberty and what it means, loads of girls want an out. And that's normal and fine. As long as they don't fuck their bodies up.

*to male

My best friend in her late 20s used to go on relentless about wanting to bind her breasts when we were teens - it was a bit worrying.

Ten years on she brought it up recently, saying she grew it out of it and that if she had had the chance to change to make she probably would have - and regretted it. This sort of glamourisation is dangerous imo

MolyHolyGuacamole

Can you explain why 'non binary' girls see binding/ and hoping for double mastectomy sometimes. As important?

When male non binary young people don't seem to make alterations to their chests?

Why is trying to hide the presence of breasts 'non binary'?

'- do you think reading about homosexuality influences others to be gay? Fair enough if you don't agree with Trans ideology (as breast binding is part of), but the idea that exposure will influence young people to follow is dangerous'

That's a take that ignores the fact that loads of girls forever have wanted their breasts to go away.

Because men start looking at you a different way. It signals 'old enough' to loads of men whether unconscious or not.

When my friend was 13 a bus driver said he'd let her off her fare if he could feel her tits. She was in school uniform.

The fact that women who have been pubescent / teen girls know that for s lot of girls, visible breasts move you from child to sex object. Suddenly you need to be more careful how you dress. Predatory gazes wherever you go.

But that's definitely not anything to do with this. Apparently.

Also not being funny but she's not got big breasts in the first place.

We all know that breasts signal 'gender' in this current movement-
Non binary girls want to hide or remove them (male as default)
Trans males do see getting breasts as a massive deal

The other day on here a trans poster flagged it as THE thing that signals gender (sex?).

Most women know that the growing breasts esp if larger means the staring leering comments start.

In my day girls tried to avoid that by getting very thin and/ or wearing baggy clothes.

Girls and women have always had a difficult relationship with their breasts because of the way they are fetishised in society. Too big too small. Drag queens with huge busts. Kenny Everett. Very large breasts are seen as somehow obscene. Too much. Page 3 lads mags etc etc etc.

This woman who I don't know who she is, is treating it as an experiment, a change. I don't think it comes from the same place.

I don't know her obv so that could be not true obv. My read though.

'She wrote: 'We used boxing wrap, thanks for capturing this with me, very intimate, very new, very cool. It's all a journey right. Lots of twists and turns and change and that's ok! Embrace it.'

Sounds like she's experimenting with looks/ ideas/ etc. It's cool?

That's not s great message. I would imagine she hasn't looked into it and seen the multiple harms and etc.

And of course women/ especially those in the public eye do sexy shoots all the time and that's not remarkable.

(Why is another thread!).

Not RTFT looked at the pics.

The binder doesn't look very tight. To me.

And what the photos do look like are 'sexy bondage' pics.

The fact she also posed without anything on her top half seems at odds with the reason binders are worn.

Just reads like sexy photo shoot TBH.

Intimate journey my arse! All over instagram isn’t intimate. Irresponsible , attention seeking dangerous behaviour.

I think they are irresponsible photos. Not something that should be celebrated. Home made binders can do even more damage than bought binders. It is giving the impression that it is cool to bind and 'mess' about. The article is not at all balanced it doesn't mention the side effects of binding. There was no question as to why she was binding, we are only left to assume she has decided to identify as non-binary. But as with other posters I don't understand how non binary for females means deforming or getting rid of your breasts and defaulting to the male human form.

If you just look at the pictures on the Daily Mail (which I understand have come from EC Instagram) you would assume they are sexualised glamour shots. You certainly wouldn't imagine they were put on instagram by a female with gender dysphoria

This is horrifying. I guess if people want to do this kind of thing to themselves it's hard to stop them, but it's dangerously irresponsible for someone in Emma Corrin's position to glamorise harmful practices as "cool" and for newspapers to collude. Hopefully it's not some sick publicist's idea to promote EC's play (Anna X) which opens at the weekend.

Also, sexual attraction is not harmful. Eating disorders are. Self harm is. Disfiguring or removing healthy body parts is.

And wtf does a NB woman need to reduce/remove her breasts whereas a NB man just needs to wear a dress or some lippy? It's the living embodiment of male as default.

Glamourising equipment that painfully deforms the healthy breasts of young women.

How very progressive

Also reminds me of Elliott Paige.

Do you have any other theories for why there has been an explosion in girls and young women identifying as transgender but no such explosion in middle aged and older women?

Exactly this. And I'm not middle aged or older either- I'm 33 yet I don't know a single woman who as an adult has chosen to go down this route.

It's either impressionable, vulnerable young girls. Or attention seeking celebrities like EC.

This look like a young woman who wants to stay a child. It seems similar to anorexia in that sense. Not surprising it affects increasing numbers of teenage girls and young women.

Some behaviour is subject to social contagion, some is not.

And just because you say that trans ideology is, does not make it fact. But it fits your narrative to say so.

It's irresponsible of Emma, just like it's irresponsible when popstars and footballers behave badly. But it happens.

Young people are impressionable.

Behaviour like this from those in the public eye just make the jobs of parents, carers and schools even harder.

And is even more of a reason to stop schools teaching gender identity as fact and something that is somehow progressive. It's the opposite of both of those things.