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Westminster Prof. lectures companies of removing single sex spaces

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OhHolyJesus · 05/07/2021 15:52

How is this allowed?

twitter.com/catterall_pp/status/1412023872937992197?s=21

Who is this for?

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Whatwouldscullydo · 05/07/2021 17:42

Is there a sign for a safe place to leave your drinks.

I mean I always took mine into the ladies with me and stuck it on the windowsill.

But where do I leave it now

FeralWoman · 05/07/2021 17:28

@OhHolyJesus An Australian here. We use the lift sign here that has the man and woman figures in it.

Helleofabore · 05/07/2021 17:23

True jellyslice, true.

JellySlice · 05/07/2021 17:20

@Helleofabore

Male prof with female name lectures people on making everything gender-inclusive. There's a surprise.

Because they know exactly what females need, of course. Silly. They can advise the government what females need too. Because they know from experience.

I doubt they know or care what females need.
Helleofabore · 05/07/2021 17:19

Male prof with female name lectures people on making everything gender-inclusive. There's a surprise.

Because they know exactly what females need, of course. Silly. They can advise the government what females need too. Because they know from experience.

JellySlice · 05/07/2021 17:18

Sneaky!

The signs are good. There is no reason, for example, that baby care should be gendered. And the functions they describe are clearer than the ones they are proposed to replace.

It's the wording that's the issue in some cases. And the fact that they are intended to be used instead of, rather than to supplement, signs that do indicate sex-differentiation.

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OhHolyJesus · 05/07/2021 17:15

*confused - not consider

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OhHolyJesus · 05/07/2021 17:15

I was especially consider about the 'gendered elevator', otherwise known as 'the lift' in the U.K. (has Westminster adopted US language along with 'inclusive' language?)

I was confused because...

A loft is for people, all people, it's not a 'gendered' single sex space

The sign used shows male and female figures - is this person's problem because there is no 'non binary' representation? If that's the case then it also doesn't show babies, children or disabled people, but that doesn't appear to be a concern.

I don't ever see signs like this to indicate that it's a lift. Do posters in the US see these? It's just not relevant in Westminster, is it?

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highame · 05/07/2021 17:03

Lightbulb moment. This is a way to get around the government saying that all new build loos must have single sex facilities and that older ones must now have a partition.. If you slyly use the labelling to confuse, you can then say it was the woman's choice and not them imposing gender neutral. Sh*ts - this is what we've been up against

IsItShining · 05/07/2021 16:51

Male prof with female name lectures people on making everything gender-inclusive. There's a surprise.

Because they are clueless about female experiences, probably.

Wildgarlicpesto · 05/07/2021 16:47

I went into an all gender restroom at the weekend at an art gallery. There were three entrances, one saying two cubicles and one saying five cubicles. The third one was disabled and baby changing (I don't think it said nursing or I might have gone in to ask for a plaster for my blister)

I stood outside making a mental assessment about which one the men were likely to choose and I decided that they were more likely to use the two cubicle one.
I walked in the five cubicles one and a woman at the sink jerked her head around immediately to check out who had come in.

Wonderful future. Dipshit.

highame · 05/07/2021 16:25

US surely, we don't use the term 'rest room'. Unsure why this term is used. I wouldn't want to rest in a toilet

Helleofabore · 05/07/2021 16:03

Oh interesting.

so, it has become a 'nursing' space now? Is there enough space to accommodate every one feeding a baby via whatever means. If so, fine. If not, then it has been exclusionary to the original purpose.

And I disagree with Margaret Middleton. I do not look forward to a future with all toilets are all-gender accessible. Unless the cubicles are enlarged to fit strollers and prams properly. Because, until such times that happens or every single building has a family bathroom, all-gender accessible toilets remove any privacy for a mother dealing with flooding periods and children in prams of any sort.

Etorih · 05/07/2021 15:56

I can take a guess who it's for. Clue: it's not for women. 😡