Westminster Prof. lectures companies of removing single sex spaces

Well I wonder if the dicks who are fawning over gender neutral toilets put half as much energy into caring about WASH issues in the developing world.

I somehow think not.

Manderly no it's everywhere in this topic.

A lot of it also seems to forget the rest of the world exists.

It's so annoying.

Points made that refer to USA history law etc that are totally irrelevant here.

Most places have a dispenser for tampons (if they have anything at all!) with various products that are branded. And you have to pay.

I can't think of a situation where that sign would be used TBH.

The thread uses the American terminology throughout, rest room, elevator, nursing. And all the replies use similar Americanisms. But MM seems to be based in NI and involved in the UK museums Association. Maybe they are American and have moved, or maybe so immersed in American influenced activism they've just absorbed the lingo.

I've never seen a sign with a picture of tampon and sanitary towel. The gender neutral version is a clearer picture, but I can't imagine many museums have that sign, if any.

You know what's crazy about the peeping Tom page of the noun project?
...they seem to know which "gender" is peeper and which is peeped.
Funny that!

Nursing is used for BF in USA.
Here nursing means looking after someone when they're I'll etc

Why breastfeeding is a problem word when men can get breast cancer etc is beyond me.

Apart from it isn't.

Over the course of this and based on a lot of what TWAW posters have said when they've come on.

Breasts are a big deal. They seem to be the #1 thing that says man/ woman.

Hence non binary girls having double mastectomies is a thing. Why is no breasts the default? Man as default.

Reveals.

For lots of girls non binary really means not- girl/woman. So the breasts must go.

Which sex in so many countries fetishises breasts? We all know the answer.

When you twig that things start to make more sense.

Actually having listened some more to Professor Middleton I am sure they (preferred pronoun) are not male.

Is MM a prof? It says designer in that tweet. I think the prof is Professor Pippa Catterall whose tweet was linked?

The way so much of this is taken from USA and dumped here without any thought to the fact we use different words

I think it's USA it's the term they use over there generally

Can't quite fathom how or why 'nursing' is more gender inclusive than "breastfeeding."

If 'nursing' is meant to include bottle-feeding, why has this never arisen to accommodate the many fathers who feed their babies? And why on earth would a separate room be needed for it? Would the room be allowed to include a breast pump, or would that be non-inclusive?

And if men can in theory breastfeed with the help of domperidone, then what's the problem with 'breastfeeding'?

Cool!

Why not include it under the bog one on the tweet in the OP though?

@FeralWoman, there are some “direct” signs at that link.

I particularly like this one.

The peeping tom page is good, too.

@NiceGerbil Here you go. Urinals from the website referred to in the Twitter link. thenounproject.com/search/?q=urinal

But WHERE IS THE URINAL sign fgs.

The thing is the reason behind changing them, though.

Where's the picture of a urinal?

Twitter profile includes the descriptor

'girly swot'

Ffs

The most unfair way of dividing toilet provision is by "standing" and "sitting and standing" (aka known as "urinals" and "cubicles").

More honest signage would be "men only" and "everyone", leaving women once again disadvantaged, regardless of safety/privacy element

I'm in Ireland where traditional loos are being renamed all over the place. Changing door signage is the cheapest way to disadvantage women and children - my local public loos are now "gender neutral with urinals" and "gender neutral". Guess which one has queues?

@OhHolyJesus I've honestly never thought about it. To me it's a sign that shows people using a lift. That's all I've ever interpreted it as. I mean, it doesn't include people in wheelchairs, or babies in prams, or children, but they all use it too.

I really hope that Australia doesn't drink the Kool-Aid on unisex toilets and keeps them sex segregated like they are currently. I'm wary enough that the brand new building at my DD's school has only one student toilet per level and of course it will be unisex/gender neutral or whatever the term is. I'm sure that they could have fit two toilets in the space available. This was a detail they didn't reveal to parents until after it was built. This building will be predominantly for children in upper primary school so some girls will be dealing with periods. I'm sure they'd rather do that in a space that doesn't have pee on the seat or general boy grossness about it. I guess the girls can go and use the senior girls' toilets in the main part of the school to have better privacy.