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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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GoWalkabout · 05/07/2021 16:26

I hope its a meaningful representation of trans people and does justice to the subjects and the plinth. Her work is challenging I believe but I hope it inspires.

MondayYogurt · 05/07/2021 16:25

@ErrolTheDragon

But then the curious thing is, I've just looked and the article has been completely re-written with far more prominance given to Samson Kambula's sculpture and those details missing

Well good. Quite outrageous that the sculpture up first - and such a good one too - wasn't getting coverage.

Wish I could compare the two. It just seems so weird.
MondayYogurt · 05/07/2021 16:24

I have a suspicion the original press release that the fourth plinth commission sent out will have lead the skewed coverage...

Justjoinedforthis · 05/07/2021 16:23

@MarianneUnfaithful couldn’t agree more!!

MarianneUnfaithful · 05/07/2021 16:21

So?

Artworks have been made from casts of many vaginas, Marc Quinn’s blood, images of disabled people’s bodies, what on earth is the problem with faces of Trans people? How does that take away sex based rights?

I am GC. Also anti-censorship. Objecting to an artwork simply because it features faces of Trans people seems to be actually transphobic.

Thelnebriati · 05/07/2021 16:17

Her expectation is that London’s weather will mean the work deteriorates and fades away, leaving “a kind of anti-monument”.

Its plaster of paris so its not going to fade away, its going to run down the plinth.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/07/2021 16:14

But then the curious thing is, I've just looked and the article has been completely re-written with far more prominance given to Samson Kambula's sculpture and those details missing

Well good. Quite outrageous that the sculpture up first - and such a good one too - wasn't getting coverage.

DingDongDenny · 05/07/2021 16:06

How curious - I read this on the BBC Website this morning and I distinctly remember the article saying that the majority of masks would be trans people who worked in the sex industry. So my question then was are there that many trans people working in the sex industry? But the article then said they were from London and 'other countries' which makes me think it will be the likes of Brazil where it is more common

But then the curious thing is, I've just looked and the article has been completely re-written with far more prominance given to Samson Kambula's sculpture and those details missing

AssassinatedBeauty · 05/07/2021 15:52

I don't understand all the headlines that don't mention Samson Kambalu's work at all. That work is going to be displayed next, not the one by Teresa Margolles which isn't due to be displayed until 2024! Talk about pre-empting.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/07/2021 15:38

@MondayYogurt

I voted for Samson Kambalu's work. Reading about it and the significance was deeply moving for me.

But I'm confused why this article seems to trumpet the Margolles work over his?

Surely the headline should follow the timeline, Kambalu's work NEXT, then the trans piece?

Me to, on all counts.

I'd not seen the ice cream... Confused
From the ridiculous to the sublime to the ... hmm. Nuff said.

teawamutu · 05/07/2021 15:36

Interesting little line about how the choices weren't necessarily the ones that got most votes. I'd love to see the true totals.

MondayYogurt · 05/07/2021 15:32

I voted for Samson Kambalu's work. Reading about it and the significance was deeply moving for me.

But I'm confused why this article seems to trumpet the Margolles work over his?

Surely the headline should follow the timeline, Kambalu's work NEXT, then the trans piece?

Fourth Plinth
Mermoose · 05/07/2021 15:27

The plinth has displayed various artworks, some of which are not my cup of tea and some of which I think are beautiful - this one for example:
www.irishnews.com/magazine/entertainment/2018/03/28/news/trafalgar-square-fourth-plinth-sculpture-unveiled-1290057/

risefromyourgrave · 05/07/2021 15:02

We can but hope the British weather does its work quickly….

EsmaCannonball · 05/07/2021 14:59

It looks like ravioli.