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What are all the liberal celebs so quiet now at the spa?

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ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 09:29

So we all knew that a man would get his cock out in front of women and little girls in a changing room at some point. And we would be told that the toddlers should just get over their bigotry.

Anyway, I was wondering why we haven't heard from all the slebs who have be parroting the TWAW line. Has anyone heard? Has anyone come out and and defended this brave penis? (Which I bet was a little bit hard as it sat exposing itself to a changing room full of women and little girls.)

Emma Watson? Sarah Silverman? Daniel Radcliffe? Why so quiet?

I listen to a few podcasts from comedians based in LA and I am always saddened to hear the casual way that LA millennials have decided that JKR is now toxic. Haven't heard anything about this yet from all of them.

Or am I being unfair?

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toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/07/2021 14:22

@WomaninBoots

Clearly ^^ they're going to be going for the "no evidence" line.
I’d love to see someone actually advising any women to whip out her phone and start recording on a naked area. Yeah that would really work wouldn’t it?
HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 05/07/2021 14:17

@Datun

It is quite interesting how many people want to deny it's happened, though. They clearly think it's awful PR.

Which I don't really get, to be honest. It is an inbuilt feature of the entire issue. It's not going away.

They're really going to have to come up with something better than 'receipts or it didn't happen' when increasing numbers of male creeps, emboldened by the misogyny of this ideology, seize their opportunity to expose themselves in front of kids.
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 05/07/2021 14:15

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SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 05/07/2021 14:14

[quote trancepants]**@SpongeBobJudgeyPants* a boycott (more male centric language)*

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Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways. Hmm I stand reprimanded. As an aside, is that seriously all you took from my post? Not the relevant bit? Too focused on showing how clever you are compared to me? Point scoring extravaganza. Hmm

LittleNibbler · 05/07/2021 14:10

@ClarrieGrundy

Jameela is very pretty, would look great in a catsuit, and says all the right things to get impressionable teens to love her.

It’s a smart move, although I’m not sure she can actually act.

I can see your point, although I don’t find her attractive in the slightest, the shit she spouts makes her seem very ugly to me (I’m bitter after she attacked ‘thin women’ and then deleted it but never fucking apologised.)
ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 14:09

Jameela is very pretty, would look great in a catsuit, and says all the right things to get impressionable teens to love her.

It’s a smart move, although I’m not sure she can actually act.

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NewlyGranny · 05/07/2021 14:08

Little girls naked in the hot tub with their mums, women of all ages, all naked, coming and going in the women's area of the spa, showers etc.

Naked person overtly displaying male genitalia arrives and sits on the hot tub edge, legs splayed.

What possible difference does it make to the little girl whether this stranger is a transwoman with a female gender identity or a predatory male who has seen an opportunity to flash some unsuspecting girls and women and blagged his way in by claiming to be trans or gender fluid or whatever?

How could she tell the difference? Is she meant to be a mind-reader? How would it affect the impact of this behaviour of she knew the person's motives?

Why should the first penis she sees outside her immediate family be the unexpected one of a stranger who is flashing her and her mother and all those other women?

What is safeguarding for if not to protect vulnerable children from experiences like this?

LittleNibbler · 05/07/2021 14:05

She may tone things down as I think that she has a role in an upcoming Marvel film.

NOOOO! Seriously? Why won’t she just fuck off? Who would hire her?! Urgh

LittleNibbler · 05/07/2021 14:04

@yeahbutnaw you appear to be selectively replying and ignoring certain questions...come on, be honest; do you think that this situation (whether real or hypothetical) is acceptable? Is a person with a penis okay to be naked in the same room as women and little girls who are also naked?

Also, in the video there is a woman at the counter demanding a refund who is not the lady filming. So that’s at least one other woman Who feels the same way. Also, the staff defended it. For this debate, whether the person in question exists no longer matters, it’s what Wi Spa plan to do going forward should this situation arise again. What do you think should be allowed?

Etorih · 05/07/2021 14:04

From the viral video woman's Instagram.

So she's religious. Does that mean when a male exposes himself to her and a child she doesn't deserve protection? Seriously. Stop now. If you think it's ok for a grown male to get their cock and balls out in front of women and children then just say it.

ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 13:57

So, I'll try again.

I had forgotten about Jameela. And my life is much better for it.

She may tone things down as I think that she has a role in an upcoming Marvel film.

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ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 13:55

Are we not allowed to talk about Jameela?

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WinterTrees · 05/07/2021 13:49

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

I can't believe what I'm reading.

A woman has vocally spoken up about a person with a penis and testicles using the female facilities and exposing penis and testicles to women and little girls.

And there is someone here on mumsnet, in the feminist section, trying to discredit the woman who spoke up. This is exactly the same thought process we see in rape prosecutions, when the defence brings up the rape victim's sexual history!

This is disgusting.

This. This, all day long.
Datun · 05/07/2021 13:44

It is quite interesting how many people want to deny it's happened, though. They clearly think it's awful PR.

Which I don't really get, to be honest. It is an inbuilt feature of the entire issue. It's not going away.

Helleofabore · 05/07/2021 13:44

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

There is no point whatsoever in providing yeah with any ‘receipts’

Other posters have made that mistake, posted loads of proof and then yeah disappeared off the thread

Hasn’t been seen on that thread since…quite funny really

Oh yes.... I remember.

The 'random teenager' on the internet posting that the average life expectancy of a trans person was 30-35.....

But the Surrey Police posted it on the 30 June 2021. And the plethora of links to other organisations including a prominent LGBT news service posting it recently too.

And the 'many' clinicians that yeahbutnaw likes to downplay and minimise.

Credibility is pretty low there, you are right Rufus. thanks for the reminder.

334bu · 05/07/2021 13:44

The other point is that ,in the videos, the employees clearly state that they are unable legally to stop male customers accessing the section where their female customers and children are naked. It is obvious , that in California ,at least, women going to spas where it is required that they,strip off, should expect that they might be confronted with naked males and that there is nothing they can do about it, with the exception of leaving the premises.

MondayYogurt · 05/07/2021 13:42

It's 2021 so of course the TRA WIspa 'truthers' are using Alex Jones' Sandy Hook false flag methodology to spread their lies and discredit women.

CardinalLolzy · 05/07/2021 13:41

Anyway, in response to the OP - has Jameela Jamil not spoken out? I'm sure I saw her post something about how awful everyone was being to all the LGBT people.

Datun · 05/07/2021 13:41

@Sophoclesthefox

sometimes things that appear to be aimed at one person are, of course, for the benefit of the many, not the few...
Indeed.
Sophoclesthefox · 05/07/2021 13:40

sometimes things that appear to be aimed at one person are, of course, for the benefit of the many, not the few...

LittleMyTopKnot · 05/07/2021 13:39

I am still confused about why yeahbutnaw wants to take a camera into an area where underaged girls are naked. I really don’t want anyone to film my children naked.

Datun · 05/07/2021 13:39

But "where's the video" is a lazy deflection, not actual engagement with the core issue.

I agree. The core issue is, for me, is that no male, however they identify, whatever the status of their genitalia, and however they behave, should be given access to vulnerable women.

None. Ever.

Sillyduckseverywhere · 05/07/2021 13:39

It is a sex crime, I was flashed at a few times and had a man masturbate whilst watching me and my friends on the beach. We were 11.
We were scared. Should we have just been kind? Hmm
That was in public, not even in a safe space (like for example a female spa or changing room)

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 05/07/2021 13:38

There is no point whatsoever in providing yeah with any ‘receipts’

Other posters have made that mistake, posted loads of proof and then yeah disappeared off the thread

Hasn’t been seen on that thread since…quite funny really