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What are all the liberal celebs so quiet now at the spa?

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ClarrieGrundy · 05/07/2021 09:29

So we all knew that a man would get his cock out in front of women and little girls in a changing room at some point. And we would be told that the toddlers should just get over their bigotry.

Anyway, I was wondering why we haven't heard from all the slebs who have be parroting the TWAW line. Has anyone heard? Has anyone come out and and defended this brave penis? (Which I bet was a little bit hard as it sat exposing itself to a changing room full of women and little girls.)

Emma Watson? Sarah Silverman? Daniel Radcliffe? Why so quiet?

I listen to a few podcasts from comedians based in LA and I am always saddened to hear the casual way that LA millennials have decided that JKR is now toxic. Haven't heard anything about this yet from all of them.

Or am I being unfair?

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dyslek · 05/07/2021 22:19

Does anyone know who the woke beard was? I really hope he is squerming now.

BatmansBat · 05/07/2021 22:17

Scandinavian countries have single sex saunas. If there is mixed sex, there is no nudity.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:17

And the single sex spa that tried a 'queer' session with predictable results...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3276075-Sweden-historical-open-air-bath-removes-sex-barriers-for-queer-day-women-driven-home-by-ogling-men

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 05/07/2021 22:13

Be more Scandinavian.

🤣🤨😫

Nordic nations have ‘disturbingly high’ levels of rape: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nordic-countries-high-rape-figures-gender-a8851456.html

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-sexual-assaults-europe-a6800901.html

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 22:12

I think the brave woman should be celebrated everywhere!

They selflessly acted to challenge the idea of 'binary' bodies. That having a penis is no indication that you're not s woman, or even that you're not female!

We all know that policing how people's bodies look has been detrimental to loads of women and girls, and those of different races.

All bodies are beautiful!

Accept them. Be proud of any differences. Push back against body shaming and oppressive ideas about what women's bodies should look like!

Come on everyone! What feminist could disagree with the policing of women's bodies!!!

EsmaCannonball · 05/07/2021 22:08

It seems to be going like this -

This will never happen.
Ok, this has happened, but it's not a crime if it's a female penis.

Ok, this has happened, but it's no big deal. Stop being so uptight. Be more Scandinavian.
The person who said this happened is a fascist.
The person who said this happened is a liar.
This never happened.
This will never happen.

GromblesofGrimbledon · 05/07/2021 22:08

@allmywhat

Aah... I had wondered what happened with all that "womxn" nonsense. You don't ever hear that anymore...

SmelliEllie · 05/07/2021 22:00

Exactly.
If transwomen are women and they have shlongs then what's the problem?
Why are they doubting it? Why are they distancing themselves from it?
It's almost like they know it's not right....

dyslek · 05/07/2021 21:57

And violent with it.

dyslek · 05/07/2021 21:56

Seems like the lovely ladee who just has to take baths with strangers kids is an extreme woman hater. Jesus this just gets worse and worse.

allmywhat · 05/07/2021 21:43

The backtracking is interesting! It reminds me of the “womxn” fiasco, when they’d been pushing that word onto woke tryhards for ages, and the general public suddenly cottoned on, to a universal chorus of “what the fuck?” Upon which the TRAs disowned responsibility for the word, cancelled it and even said T*rfs had invented it!

Unfortunately, getting dicks into women’s and girls’ spaces is a much more fundamental part of the agenda than wummixin ever was. So the denial of the facts now they’ve found out the public isn’t on board isn’t a change of agenda. It’s just designed to gaslight people and sow doubt.

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 05/07/2021 21:33

Its happening in the MOJ, the police, and MI5 which are hardly hotbeds of communism

It's happening in the civil service because of institutional capture by stonewall et al. This transcends party politics.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 21:31

I mean that was the reason they gave.

Bit thin imo!

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 21:28

Well I remember they had two proposals raised at conference which were a bit..
Erm. Neither got anywhere.

Can only remember one which was to reduce the age that you can appear in porn/ sell sex to 16. To align with age of consent.

DdraigGoch · 05/07/2021 21:26

@Thelnebriati

The looney Left have created a perverts dream come true.

This is all happening under a conservative government, as a result of a policy introduced by the Conservatives.
Its happening in the MOJ, the police, and MI5 which are hardly hotbeds of communism.

Wasn't a lot of this done by Lib Dem Ministers during the Coalition era?
NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 21:25

There's nothing for them to defend.

Acceptance without exception and TWAW.

Surely it's something to celebrate.

I expected more posts saying we've won what an awesome brave woman tbh

RedDogsBeg · 05/07/2021 21:19

[quote GromblesofGrimbledon]@NiceGerbil

Excellent point. Why aren't people celebrating it if they believe TWAW instead of trying to claim it didn't happen?

Surely they should be championing the transwomen who sat naked next to that little girl and berating the woman who dared to question the transowman's identity and right to be there. [/quote]
The man who berated the woman doing the video did but I understand he has back tracked now.

I really want the posters who think the behaviour of this male bodied person in the Spa is perfectly acceptable to come on here and defend it after all this is the core of their belief that TWAW isn't it?

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 21:17

From what I've seen there is a split here.

Two opinions

  1. Never happened
  2. Great, person in right place. Anyone with an issue needs to get over it. Little girls should accept it. Otherwise, don't go to female only stuff if you don't want to see a dick

Total opposites! Which is also a bit strange.

Etorih · 05/07/2021 21:13

Excellent point. Why aren't people celebrating it if they believe TWAW instead of trying to claim it didn't happen?

I don't understand this either. It's really strange. Do they think that somehow it's wrong, now faced with the reality of what they wanted. 🤔

GromblesofGrimbledon · 05/07/2021 21:04

@NiceGerbil

Excellent point. Why aren't people celebrating it if they believe TWAW instead of trying to claim it didn't happen?

Surely they should be championing the transwomen who sat naked next to that little girl and berating the woman who dared to question the transowman's identity and right to be there.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 20:48

The idea it's completely made up is just so silly and anyone who watches the film can see and hear exactly what it happening.

And why would it be a problem even if made up?

The fact is that the situation is a brave step for a transwoman (transwomen are women) using the correct area in the spa.

So it's a good thing.

So why the insistence it never happened? It's a good thing that the spa is trans friendly surely.

NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 20:44

Ah I get it now.

So this woman has certain views.
She doesn't like abortion, homosexuality, trans people etc.

Wants to do something to get a video so can encourage people to think her ideas have merit.

Rather than targeting and making something up at an abortion clinic, gay club or similar.

She thinks right.

I'll go to the female only spa where children are. And I'll go all the time until a person with a penis comes in. Then do a vid!!!

Bit of a long shot surely?

TedImgoingmad · 05/07/2021 20:43

[quote OhHolyJesus]I posted this in another thread but it's more appropriate and relevant here

[/quote] Brilliant.
NiceGerbil · 05/07/2021 20:29

Yeahbutnow

Totally baffled by the argument it didn't happen.

The whole push is that

TWAW
you do need need to change anything about your appearance, gender presentation is different to gender ID
any and all things which were female should be open to anyone with a gender of woman and to challenge them is transphobic

I think everyone can agree on the above.

So.
Person with penis attends a female only clothes off place

Surely the response should be. They are being very brave and should be celebrated.

Why on earth this (incorrect) claim it never happened?

What's the problem with the situation to elicit this response?

It's 100% what has been pushed for ages. I'd have thought it would be greeted as a really positive thing?

TheDinosaurMum · 05/07/2021 20:27

@ClarrieGrundy

I wonder what would happen if that video had been recorded in Leeds/ Edinburgh/ Bristol/Cardiff/Belfast/ London? Take your pick.

As far as I know there have been no videos, but there have been broadly similar instances in Centre Parcs. Maybe other places as well?

I imagine the British public would have a lot less truck with the female penis. At least I hope so.

@ClarrieGrundy I live in a working class town in South Wales. If a nude male body got in to a hot tub with a nude woman and her nude young daughter, and said woman complained to her husband/partner about it. It wouldn't be the woman stood at reception complaining. Said man would be right up there and asking where the willy waving nudist was and to point him out.

All this is going to end badly in certain parts of non-woke Britain. I just wish it would all stop. If your body has testicles and a penis, do not expose them in areas specifically for people who do not have a penis.

We don't want to see it, we deliberately went in a room to stay away from seeing random penises. 🙄

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