What are all the liberal celebs so quiet now at the spa?

Yes, flashing is a sort of entry level way of coercing women to participate in sex act. Red flags all over the place.

But if you believe TWAW, then transwomen are perfectly okay to use a nude female only space where children are present, yes?

And 'transitioning' or 'intending to transition' means saying one identifies as a woman. That's it. Ones genitals/facial hair has no bearing on the situation.

so:

How do we distinguish a transwoman from a flasher?

Do you have an answer, yeahbutnaw?

We're constantly tarnished with disinformation campaigns just like this one.

And you're helping to spread them - thereby making our lives harder. Thanks.

this will not be a one off incident

It already is not a one off incident with the other video released this weekend after the protest and the review posted by Arabella up thread.

I actually expect that more will come out over the next few weeks.

I mean it's not like we had sex segregated spaces in the first place because we know there are quite a few men who don't need an excuse to get their dicks out and maybe they need managing a bit...

I hereby name this the Frank Oceans Finger rebuttal.

We should enter that into Bunbury's guide of knowing the techniques used to silence women.

this will not be a one off incident

The logical conclusion of transwomen are women alongside gender neutral spaces for all is more penises being exposed in front of women and girls. They won't be able to shout bigot/far right/religious zealot everytime someone complains without losing all credibility. It's just really awful that women and girls will have to endure this until the sensible majority start waking up and calling it out.

Just to add insult to injury as it were, Colin Pitchfork was/ is due to be released! He murdered two young girls, but now he can get out. Life must and should mean life.

So according to some posters, women are untrustworthy, they lie about incidents like this and that why activists don't give us the benefit of the doubt.

I hereby name this the Frank Oceans Finger rebuttal.

As was the piece of shit who murdered Rachel Nickell , Samantha Bisset and her daughter Jazmine.

No decent, innocent man would get his genitals out in front of women and little girls. And no decent person who genuinely cares about women and girls and understands safeguarding would defend this behaviour.

I am still trying to understand all this and am reading the threads. But I don’t like the thought of a person with a penis and testicles naked next to a little girl .

And I don’t like the thought of naked little girls being filmed as yeahbutnaw suggested

Exactly. It looks likeYeahbutnawnever got the memo that they're meant to be defending it, not denying it, because it's so shameful

Well we must remember that everyone who says they are a woman is a woman but when that person something bad or commits a crime they were not true trans therefor it still hasn't happened yet

The policeman who murdered Sarah Everard was a flasher first. It’s very common for sex offenders to start like that, then it escalates. Join the dots , doubters and see how all the people who said this would happen have been vindicated

There was a group of upset-looking women and children in robes in reception. There was another woman at reception asking for a refund, she also looked shaken.

"Didn't happen" my arse.

I guess the TRA Juggernaut is going far too fast to turn around now. The excuses, lies, minimising and smearing are a joy to behold. Please, do continue.

So you think it's perfectly rational for an anti-LGBT person to go to a known LGBT hotspot?

Is it though? From what I have read and the reviews, it is a 'known' Korean family 'hotspot'? I think you are twisting this wildly. It is a place where people take their families. If you listen or read other reviews, even Korean family's take their 'grandmas'.

You also think it's perfectly rational for an anti-trans person to blame trans people when a Wispa randomly appears in their garden? When it in fact was a neighbouring child?

What the fuck are you talking about. A Wi Spa randomly appearing in someone's garden? How do you get a whole building just appearing in a garden? And how does a neighbouring child even conjure up a Wi Spa franchise in the neighbours yard?

There's a long history of anti-trans people manufacturing incidents to incite hatred of trans people.

And there is a long history of people calling others 'anti-trans' when they are not 'anti-trans'. And there is a long history of hyperbole, deflection and distraction that occurs on these threads.

And there is a long history of people ignoring safeguarding guidelines and lowering boundaries for children and women in the name of many things that result in harm.

And there is a long history in denying that incidents like this happen.

And there is a long history in telling people that a nine year old should become accustomed to knowing that trans bodies are different (while ignoring the many fully functioning trans bodies involved in porn that is even to be found without appropriate labelling on twitter).

Nine year old girls. Being told that penises within a metre of them in a hot tub shouldn't make them uncomfortable and they should not even be looking.

Nine year old girls.

If it is a known LGBT hotspot that should be made clear as people pay money to go in. Women should not hand over cash on the assumption that they are entering single sex space. The poster here is making it very clear that women should not expect any right to single sex space. Anyone reading this who is not clear on that fact please note it. The activists campaign is to remove any right to single sex space at all.

More on this story:

Woman says transgender woman 'with a beard and a penis' got into a hot tub with her daughter, 6, at LA spa more than a YEAR before this weekend's clashes over child exposure incident in female steam room

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9756165/Woman-says-person-beard-penis-got-hot-tub-daughter-6-LA-spa.html

Well we do know of one person who has openly admitted she woukd take them all In her space.

So there's that

Could it be that there's no evidence that it actually happened?

This is only ever spouted with something people disagree with.

If it was in your favour, you'd probably stay quiet and not bother correcting it. Reminds me of the "what are your credentials" whenever someone is on the opposite side, but you'll take anything from some random, as long as it supports you

What makes you think this incident isn't true?

Ribbons are a hate crime, the phrase “adult human female” is a transphobic dog whistle, people here are made unsafe by women having opinions, but for gods sake don’t over react if you are afraid someone tried to poison your dog!

I suppose some people do have a blind spot when it comes to empathy for black women. It’s not good.