New Political Party?

I don't think a women's party would do particularly well. Tories can keep voting Conservative because there is some movement supporting women in the party and no-one gets the Rosie Duffield treatment so unless the women's party other policies fitted with their other world views (free markets, small state, low tax etc) why switch.

Without the support of Conservative women it would be stuffed from the start. UKIP worked because it took votes from old Labour areas as well as from the tory shires. And Labour activists have for too long demonised the Tories - would they bring themselves to work with ex-Conservative activists on this?

Time and money better spent joining the SDP and helping them field candidates and getting an SDP women's movement going.

Not a new political party - a Women's Union. (Which could field candidates for election.)

Lots of women are not GC and are happy with the TWAW stuff.

I don't think this is true, I think those who are TWAW either haven't thought through the implications, are burying thwir head in the sand, or are desperate for male approval.

I'm not sure it would be a single issue party. Sex us so important on so many issues; health, education, transport, criminal justice etc.
I'm another who would say yes.

[quote Whatifitallgoesright]This is the WEP split-off. Can we just make them the real WEP and oust the other WEP? Will we need a military to do this. Has anyone got one?

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That makes more sense. What would happen if all the GC feminists joined the WEP and worked towards adopting sex-based rights over trans rights as party policy? I don't know how the WEP is constituted or how smooth is the path from membership will to party policy, but it would be worth looking into.

Otherwise you're taking what is already a minority party (although women aren't a minority, the number who want to prioritise this over affiliation to Tories or Labour on more general grounds is), and splitting it into two even smaller ones. Lots of women are not GC and are happy with the TWAW stuff.

I would like to see an explicitly feminist party using the Spanish feminist manifesto covering all the important issues...or we could rebrand the demands of the Women’s Liberation movement.
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I think the SDP DON'T support Stonewall and are not
Diversity Champions.

This is the WEP split-off. Can we just make them the real WEP and oust the other WEP? Will we need a military to do this. Has anyone got one?

www.wepsbr.com/

Just wanted to point out that in Scotland there are currently two explicitly pro-women parties; ISP & Alba.

They are both very new and have not gained any ground so far - I think setting a party up is actually relatively easy - the difficulty is getting people to vote for this new party which won't be have known 'names' or a track record.

They tried something similar with Change UK and with the Women’s Equality Party. Neither has done well.
The only reason the Brexit Party did well was because of the money and support behind it.

I think it would do well. Those arguing against the power of a single issue party only need to look at what Farage achieved. I am politically homeless right now, I would join.

It’s not true that single issue/small parties don’t achieve anything because they rarely get candidates in- they can put a lot of pressure on main parties who are worried about a split vote. I think the Green Party has a definite impact on Labour, for instance. If Labour don’t have a good environmental policy, they risk losing votes to the Greens.

In the in early 1900s, the suffrage movement abandoned the Liberals (who were taking their time about giving women the vote) and gave their support to the then very small, albeit not single issue Labour Party. The Liberals picked up the pace a bit after that!

I would absolutely take part. Even if only to highlight the issue.

I think one of the issues raised was the ability to send out a leaflet to voters, laying out the issues you are campaigning on.

That would be a great way to get the public informed.

Yes please.

Watching with interest.

Vivarium I don't blame you one bit, I'm a bit ashamed now that I didn't vote in the last local elections.

I won't ever vote for Labour until they do a 180 and actually listen to women again.

Oh please - I would join

I have spoiled my ballot paper twice now and would be thrilled to be able vote to protect women's rights rather than registering a (probably pointless) protest.

What are the chances of success and would we be better having a uniting organisation that can sign up millions of women (almost like a trade union) who will terrify the life out of the existing parties and organisations. There is definitely a concern building in the UK as more people become aware of the issues for women and it would be good to capitalize on that but how is another matter

The only other single issue party that has ever achieved anything is UKIP, and they did that not by winning seats but by exerting enough pressure from the right on the Tory party, so the Tories felt they had to adopt UKIP's policy to avoid losing a fatal number of votes. (And even there it only worked because the Tories misread the country and thought they could get away with just offerering the referendum on Brexit, which would clearly vote to stay in . . . oops.)

You could try doing the same thing, though you'd have to pick a "side" of the current culture war to do it from, and you'd probably have more chance with the Tories than Labour. Must admit though, I don't think the number of people outside our little bubble who care about gender ideology enough for it to determine their voting decisions is anywhere near the number who wanted to leave the EU.

Strawberry I voted Tory in the election. I still feel dirty, but it was that or destroy my vote and as women died so I could have one that didn't feel right either.

I do think a women's issues party could fly. There are some big brains out there who are already skilled at debating and arguing points - e.g. Dr Nic, Karen Ingala Smith, Helen Staniland, et al.

Bet Baroness Nicholson would help, was she not setting up a list of women who were interested in campaigning? There are a growing number of Peers talking to her, it seems.

I do think change is afoot on all this stuff, but it's not going to be immediate and it's not going to be a main issue for any of the big political parties. We have to do it for ourselves.

As per bloody usual.

I'd join it too.

Mind you I'd vote Tory if they actually do more to defend the rights of women and children. I never thought I'd ever say that. Labour obviously are too far down the rabbit hole.

I definitely feel politically homeless.

A single issue party is about the campaign rather than seats in Parliament (although it may be realistic at council level). Definitely needed