Can you please help me articulate the issues with this? Jigsaw

What the heck is a "birth-body"? Does ymit mean the body you were born with (i.e. the only one you'll ever have!) or does it mean a body that can give birth to a baby (i.e. an adult female body)? Or am I missing something obvious?

It sounds mealy-mouthed and confusing at the same time. Not helpful qualities in education settings!

Does jigsaw provide a glossary? I'd love to see it.

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Thanks for the heads up Limelemon. Interesting to see that the ks1 lesson is very much planned with gender identity in mind. Billy and Bella are very much the props to the narrative of B's identity. I have already emailed school but this is useful follow up. Is there any chance you could private message me with the images @LimeLemonBergamot?

The whole thing revolves around an assumption that the girl and the boy conform to their gender role all the time and bully any child who does not.

That behaviour is not inherent it is learned. And yes plenty of children have ideas about this is for boys and this is for girls but don't enforce it constantly in s rigid and bullying manner.

IME when mine were at primary the fact that some girls wore shorts and loved sport while some boys had long tied back hair and did not enjoy sport for example, was not counted on it was just normal.

The subtext here is that what they would call "cis' children are unfailing horrible.

I've just emailed dd's school about this, plus asking when they're going to get back to me about the Rse consultation, which was months ago. Looking back at my submission I specifically requested more info on the Yr2 Jigsaw 'Gender Diversity' unit, as I suspected it would be this kind of harmful nonsense. Plus I also chased them up on getting the Equality Policy corrected to state sex and not gender. I'm on a roll this morning!

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But right now it is whack a mole

I'd have no faith that a centralised resource would be any better to be honest Grellbunt. So many arms of the Government have been captured.

What I don't get is : why does each school get to pick a set of any old random materials for this stuff? Why isn't there just one textbook/pack that is properly vetted and that can then be rolled out without needing to worry? When I was at school each teacher/school just used standard textbooks.

This absolutely enrages me.

I swear gender roles are much more rigidly enforced now than in the 80s. What rubbish this ‘learning’ resource is.

Correlation is not causation, I know, but I do think we should ask whether this new reinforcement of sex stereotypes and sex role stereotypes has had any bearing on the observed rise in self-harm and suicides amongst young women.

We are experiencing record high numbers of both. This is happening at the same time as a rise in male violence, especially sexual violence against women and girls, and the growing prevalence of violent and degrading porn (the vast majority of porn now involves hurting, humiliating or forcing women).

So, on the one hand, we once again force girls into a straitjacket of stereotypes that so many don't want to wear, that harms those who comply and those who reject it, and on the other hand they see a world where men not only continue to dominate, but where sexual predators assault and rape women and girls almost without consequence.

CEDAW btw, the international human rights agreement that the UK is a signatory to, emphasises that stereotypes must be tackled to achieve equality for women.

Article 5
States Parties shall take all appropriate measures:
(a) To modify the social and cultural patterns of conduct of men and women, with a view to achieving the elimination of prejudices and customary and all other practices which are based on the idea of the inferiority or the superiority of either of the sexes or on stereotyped roles for men and women

Article 10
States Parties shall take all appropriate measures to eliminate discrimination against women in order to ensure to them equal rights with men in the field of education and in particular to ensure, on a basis of equality of men and women:
(c) The elimination of any stereotyped concept of the roles of men and women at all levels and in all forms of education by encouraging coeducation and other types of education which will help to achieve this aim and, in particular, by the revision of textbooks and school programmes and the adaptation of teaching methods

Stereotypes are recognised as an impediment to the full equality of women, both in feminist analysis and international human rights law. We really cannot accept our children being indoctrinated like this. Especially with lesson materials derived from the doctrine of gender identity .

Enjoying playing with stereotypically male toys (or as an adult, pursuing a career in a male-dominated field) does not make a woman identify as a man.

What does it mean to identify as a gender?

If we make it about what toys we play with, or what stereotypical roles we adhere to (or don't), then we are reducing gender to some very lazy and limiting stereotypes.

I feel this exercise is actively damaging as it reinforces stereotypes about some toys being for boys and some toys being for girls.

Unless you operate a toy with your genitalia, toys are for CHILDREN, not just children of any particular gender.

I am not surprised that identifying as non-binary is becoming more popular if it is seen as the only way of avoiding this damaging nonsense.

Wrong thread sorry!

I would really want to sit the SLT down and ask them.

What do you want the little girls in your care to have ambitions towards? Do you want to see them go confidently into STEM careers? Be police, fire service, armed forces, astronauts, the careers women have fought their way into and proved they can excel at, or do they want 'girl careers' and 'boy careers'? Because that's where this bullshit logically has to lead.

And do they want their little boys to grow up to be good fathers who can raise and nurture their children, be emotionally healthy, able to share a relationship with equal responsibilities bearing in mind these days that both parents will mostly work? Or are they training them now that boys don't do this stuff, it's girly. By which we all know, means inferior, beneath them.

This is embedding male supremacism into children.

The teacher who gave the assembly teaches maths as well!!!

Thank you so much for this OP. I am chasing up dd's school on their lack of response to my questions re their Jigsaw rse programme. One of my questions was about this Year 2 content, which I had seen the title of only and had my suspicions. I will be critiquing it at length!!

Clearly the reason B is crying is because the children have been conditioned to believe that there are such things as boys' toys and girls' toys, and the social elements of this conditioning are so powerful that anyone who doesn't conform to these sexist stereotypes is bullied into submission.

The other disturbing thing about this 'lesson' is that Bella and Billy are framed as the aggressors, and it hasn't occurred to anyone that they might be just as oppressed by sexist stereotypes as B, but because they weren't crying about it, they are assumed to be fine with the rigid and limiting stereotypes imposed on them.

It's bizarre that people think that the problem is that "not everyone fits the stereotypes" and view their own situation as utterly unique instead of twigging that perhaps they're not the first person to experience discomfort with sexist stereotypes and that perhaps those stereotypes hurt everyone.

Honestly, I'm at this point with many schools.

So, creating a binary?

Ffs.