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Mermaids - sinister photo

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IrishMumInLondon2020 · 02/07/2021 06:29

What are they trying to do here with the photo of ‘Jennie’ and her friend on the bed? Makes me extremely uncomfortable.
mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/mermaids-tales/

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toffeebutterpopcorn · 03/07/2021 10:32

Yup. We’ve seen it all before. Old as time. And they never bloody learn.

WarriorN · 03/07/2021 10:29

There's a lot of money to be made in the area of blurring boundaries.

merrymouse · 03/07/2021 10:03

It again highlights the lack of safeguarding.

Agree. There is pressure to be ‘sex positive’, but also to sanitise anything connected with sex.

‘Don’t be a prude, but how dare you imply that there is anything odd about interviewing people in a bathrobe’. It’s the Harvey Weinstein charter.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 03/07/2021 09:46

My kid used to dress up as Spider-Man or a power ranger. I didn’t spend loads of my time and efforts (as this child parents must be doing) to expose him to the adult world and manage his costumes.

NonHypotheticalLurkingParent · 03/07/2021 09:42

It’s just a bizarre photo. As it’s in an advertorial puff piece it would’ve been signed off by Starbucks as well as Mermaids. The photo was probably supplied by the family as an example of Jennie enjoying herself as an average 11 year old girl.

It again highlights the lack of safeguarding. Anyone pointing out that this photo wasn’t appropriate would be cast out as a transphobic bigot.

It’s such a shame we can’t talk about this in plain language.

Soontobe60 · 03/07/2021 09:09

I am a 60 year old grandma. I’m going to go to Starbucks as often as I can and tell them my name is Bruce or Frank or some typical male name, then loudly proclaim I’m NB whilst chatting to the staff. I can bet that they won’t be so matey with me and will probably think I’m bonkers. Then I’ll take photos of me with my cup to post on their SM pages.

FreeBritnee · 03/07/2021 09:04

@BreatheAndFocus

I look at that and see a number of children who would have probably grown up to be gay. This is such old-fashioned crap - and damaging too.

Mermaids IMO are desperate for validation. They hook up with a big commercial sponsor like Starbucks and write drivel like this, then hope Starbucks will repay them by legitimising them.

I never go into a Starbucks now but when I did I never gave them my real name anyway. It’s just cringeworthy. The child here ‘finding out’ their name from a social media poll says it all. Hate yourself, re-invent yourself, get hooked on validation from social media. That’s not being your authentic self at all, is it?

I tried to say the same thing on another thread but felt id get massive pushback so didn’t. I too think a lot of these children would have gone in to be gay and found a wonderful community having made that decision. Unfortunately the T is getting them first and before they know it they’re sucked into medication and procedures.
FreeBritnee · 03/07/2021 09:01

@Ghislainedefeligonde

freebritnee if you watch the video Sinead talks about having testosterone injections and double mastectomy. She also mentions that people do often mistake her for a man and that she doesn’t blame them for this or correct them which is very gracious of her. It’s worth watching it all
God that’s just so bloody sad that we’re encouraging our young people to take such drastic steps whilst growing. Things that can’t be undone 😪
FreeBritnee · 03/07/2021 09:00

@Cwenthryth

Sinead (*@ImWatson91* on Twitter) is as she says a detransitioned woman. She lived for several years as a transman and had medical treatment to transition, and then desisted. She’s campaigning to support detransitioners and for better care and therapy for young people with gender dysphoria.
Thank you cx
Ghislainedefeligonde · 03/07/2021 08:57

freebritnee if you watch the video Sinead talks about having testosterone injections and double mastectomy. She also mentions that people do often mistake her for a man and that she doesn’t blame them for this or correct them which is very gracious of her. It’s worth watching it all

BreatheAndFocus · 03/07/2021 08:25

I look at that and see a number of children who would have probably grown up to be gay. This is such old-fashioned crap - and damaging too.

Mermaids IMO are desperate for validation. They hook up with a big commercial sponsor like Starbucks and write drivel like this, then hope Starbucks will repay them by legitimising them.

I never go into a Starbucks now but when I did I never gave them my real name anyway. It’s just cringeworthy. The child here ‘finding out’ their name from a social media poll says it all. Hate yourself, re-invent yourself, get hooked on validation from social media. That’s not being your authentic self at all, is it?

Cwenthryth · 03/07/2021 08:12

Sinead (@ImWatson91 on Twitter) is as she says a detransitioned woman. She lived for several years as a transman and had medical treatment to transition, and then desisted. She’s campaigning to support detransitioners and for better care and therapy for young people with gender dysphoria.

FreeBritnee · 03/07/2021 07:57

I hate to talk out of turn but has she detransitioned and if so from which sex back into which sex? I genuinely couldn’t work it out. I think it was the voice.

WarriorN · 03/07/2021 07:23

Sinead is awesome isn't she, so eloquent and hits every nail on every head.

FreeBritnee · 03/07/2021 07:11

[quote WarriorN]Actually just started watching this film by Watson and she nails the issues with this mermaid page within the first 5 mins (it's much longer)

[/quote] Pronoun Punters made me chuckle 🤭
PrincessNutella · 03/07/2021 05:09

Scaredy is wearing a diaper? Excuse me while I vomit.

PrincessNutella · 03/07/2021 05:07

That is truly as creepy AF

DdraigGoch · 03/07/2021 01:30

@AfternoonToffee

I don't drink coffee, but if I did and I went to Starbucks surely they would just write any name that I said whether that was Boris or Doris. Part of me can understand that it must feel positive when they call your new name but I mainly feel that the people in the article are simply being used by Starbucks.
Comedian Dave Gorman messes around with this. He insists that his name is "Cappuccino Two Sugars" and watches the reactions by other customers when it is said out loud.
EishetChayil · 03/07/2021 00:55

When a minority has corporate capitalism behind it, you know it isn't as oppressed as it would have you believe...

Aparallaxia · 03/07/2021 00:21

They make crap coffee anyway. The only time I've bought coffee at Starbucks was just at the start of the big lockdown in California last March (we were actually on holiday!) and it was the only effing coffee shop open in the whole of San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara counties as far we could tell.

LotLessBovver · 03/07/2021 00:02

Actually, the lady just wrote my name and didn’t say anything. They never spell my name right, but it’s okay.

And yet the cup that Jennie is holding has the exact spelling that Jennie uses...

They're not even trying to be convincing with those Starbucks stories.

andyoldlabour · 02/07/2021 23:53

How many people would be worried about this, if it was to be published in the Guardian/Independent, with Commnents enabled?
The problem is that those news sources are in an echo chamber, where real views arew supressed.

NiceGerbil · 02/07/2021 23:29

'Scaredy considers herself a "bedroom queen"—a queen who only does drag in privacy rather than a live performer'

A PP earlier said it was a meet and greet at a set.

If the reason for the bed is because of the bedroom Queen thing. That makes no sense if they're having photos taken on a set...?!

That nappy pic is. I don't like it. Fetishy and just. Creepy.

And the bed and the kids toys... It just feels totally off.

Ghislainedefeligonde · 02/07/2021 23:22

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toffeebutterpopcorn · 02/07/2021 17:56

So many people will have been involved in setting up the shoot, at the shoot itself, production... then the designers, proofreaders, editors, whoever signed off the final format. So many people with zero spider senses.