Transgender people have an average life expectancy of 30-35, or lower

@PhiRhoSigma Always seems to be the NHS and the govt who have to pick up the pieces and try to make good the damage caused by the shoddy and shabby conduct of private clinicians and practitioners, and it will be the case with this too, I'd imagine. The alchemists will be long gone by then.

Oh look @yeahbutnaw!!

A random police group tweeted this yesterday!!!!

Just a random teenager?

What seems extraordinary to me is that we are effectively experimenting on people when they transition. We have no real idea what the long (or even medium) term impact on life expectancy is. Spouting random stats without qualification is unhelpful. We should be collecting stats objectively and comprehensively. Of course, allowing people to change their sex/gender records retrospectively will make this well nigh impossible.

Blinkin' heck. Shouldn't police statistics have some force of objective truth behind them? Does social media now mean any old stuff can be issued under their imprimatur.

Surrey Police LGBT+ have Tweeted exactly the same stats.

Isn’t it a bit worrying that the UK police are propagating these debunked stats?

They are still peddling this lie?

’Says a lot about your "many" comment.’

Oh look @yeahbutnaw, the New York Post says ‘many’ too!!

nypost.com/2021/06/30/inside-the-rush-to-reassign-the-genders-of-kids/?fbclid=IwAR2dxOFc8emu06y7c6GIKS7F1FZWd9wF6RuHchIQD0ns0Ty6o31rvv3QYfY

Gosh… maybe you ARE behind in your reading as well as your facts and stats. If even the NY post says it, there must be a ground swell happening in the USA as well.

Still looking forward to the latest statistics on life expectancy for the UK for transpeople, murder rates etc and stats to disprove ‘many’ clinicians are worried that one size doesn’t fit all.

Because you told us ’If only you showed the same diligence and critical thinking about the information spread on here. But you don't.’

And well… it seems that only you don’t at the moment. Your questionable credibility is even rather shakier than before.

Oh, and maybe you can back up your assertion that the statistic is ONLY being pushed by a random twitter teenager.

Because, the links posted yesterday was from just a quick search to show you how wide spread it is.

My point about trans women in Asia was are they are included in the stats? - & yes I am very aware of pre birth sex based abortion - which is technically illegal there & further more the kidnapping of girls (not women usually) to areas with few females precisely because of this, also illegal. Poverty means inequality - & even in an more extreme way than here.
I worry about inaccurate statistics & there use & long term hormone use or blocking of hormones. Now this I do know - cancer treatment for prostate cancer can include hormone blocking &these men have to be checked for osteoporosis

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?q=www.theigc.org/blog/the-growing-concern-around-violence-against-women-in-india-where-do-we-stand/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjExOCUl8DxAhVy5-AKHcuwCDAQFjAFegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw03ywsK_BxbviWFYRho1RPq" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.google.com/url?q=www.theigc.org/blog/the-growing-concern-around-violence-against-women-in-india-where-do-we-stand/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjExOCUl8DxAhVy5-AKHcuwCDAQFjAFegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw03ywsK_BxbviWFYRho1RPq
www.theigc.org/blog/the-growing-concern-around-violence-against-women-in-india-where-do-we-stand/

Jan Morris managed a very long innings.

However, these statistics are being used to compel decisions about policies in the UK, Australia, Canada and USA. That is what this thread is all about

Exactly. And petrifying our kids too.

mumwon

I am sure that many trans people in other countries have life expectancies that vary to the UK, Australia, Canada and and even the USA.

However, these statistics are being used to compel decisions about policies in the UK, Australia, Canada and USA. That is what this thread is all about.

It would be excellent for trans health and safety to be improved every where so that life expectancy is no different. That is definitely something that lobby groups should be working very hard for.

can I mention trans women in the Subcontinent - they live a life separate & often despised, by the mains stream society. Many there are prostitutes or treated as such & definitely not rich or accepted. I imagine they have shorter lifespans too (no proof or stats but its more than likely).
I can't imagine so-called "ladyboys" in South Asia have a good quality of life or long life span either
Both of the above groups often have risky life styles & may be at risk of VD including AIDS as they can be attacked/raped

But its being shared, shared and shared again by lots of "influencers" some of whom are only teens themselves. Some of whom my teens follow on SM. My teens then (potentially) see the "facts" and believe them and share them with their friends. Who then believe them and share them with their friends and so on and so on.

That's why (imo) we have to fight these inaccuracies.

@Sophoclesthefox

Just placemarking cause gawd, the receipts are a thing of beauty and, being the optimist that I am, I would love to see the response

Thanks for all the lovely links @Helleofabore

I'm looking forward to the receipts for the counter argument being posted. I'll wait, in fact I'll join the queue...

It is important to debunk this stuff, it's pseudoscientific shite. But the kind of stuff kids like my daughter aren't able to see for what it is yet.

But even if it was all true, this kind of statistic is completely useless. And it is done across a host of issues, women's issues, racial issues, gay and lesbian issues. Unless you can say something about the context, these stats say almost nothing.

Noting a disparity doesn't tell us the cause of the disparity.

You seem to be saying the same thing in slightly different ways on many threads: why are you even talking about this, stop talking about this

It is clear sometimes that the intention is to aim the pointy finger of shame at the women that won't STFU.

It is also just as clear, that many times activists forget that many posters have teenagers directly affected by things like these misused statistics and the agenda driven by activists keen to ignore the needs of young females - often our children.

Wow. Is this issue really impacting you that much, that this is where you get to. Sad.

You seem to be saying the same thing in slightly different ways on many threads: why are you even talking about this, stop talking about this.