Am I non binary?

I’m non-binary because I have long hair and like skirts; but, I also like my job, hate cooking, like being paid as much as a man, voting, talking loudly about politics, having my opinion respected and being able to command the room at work when I speak. I’m the breadwinner, outspoken, read the financial pages, have strong opinions and like people to do as I say without any argument - all those male things.

Admittedly some of my colleagues are bigots, and they assume based on my self-presentation that I’m female, so they often don’t treat me with the respect I feel I’m due when I identify with the masculine role of being respected at work etc. Should I tell them that I am non binary so that they understand that I prefer to be taken more seriously than women who just identify as women?

Really, genuinely, the only difference between gender ID non binaries and feminist non binaries are inward beliefs (in innate gender ID, or not) and outward performance of pronoun policing (imposing pronouns, or finding them irrelevant).

To me that's similar to the difference between religious Judaism and cultural Judaism. Both still Jewish.

Am I just a massive bitch or does anyone else find the whole non binary gender fluid nonsense tiresome?

Everyone has to have a label these days, people cant feel different without having to have a category to fit in. Ironic considering its supposed to be because you don't want to be in a category in the first place.

Just be yourself. You don’t need a label.

I have never worn a dress or heels. I haven’t worn make up since I was 17. Some may think that makes me a bloke. My sex, my ability to carry children, my monthly periods… say I am very much a woman.

I said on another thread that with us all acknowledging that we qualify as non-binary, it must be a comfort for all the other non-binary people.

They have millions of us for support. They are certainly not isolated at all. And they should not feel that they have to modify their bodies in any way because we also all show just how wide the range of body types are for non-binary people.

Laughing at the 10 people joke, v good.

Although tbh I think it's rather shallowly non feminist.

Although tbh I think it's rather shallowly non feminist.

Calling yourself non-binary is deeply un-feminist.

It's this generation's "not like other girls".

It's throwing women under the bus by denying the reality of our sex, which leads us down some pretty dystopian roads, none of them good for women.

I can’t help but think of one of my favourite jokes.

There are ten types of people. Those who understand binary and those who don’t.

You really do have to tell that one right - and it can only be done in print not verbally.
There are 10 types of people....

Non binary? That seems lacking in imagination. I'm complex. Or multidimensional.
(Or just a female with a personality, like half the human race)

I think we can only know by comparing you to a binary person. I've never met one. Has anyone else?

It is more likely to crumble because they will all bore each other to death discussing how they like both wearing a tea dress and watching football.

At some point this movement is going to start gatekeeping what a woman is, what a man is etc. And it will hopefully all fucking crumble because it DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

At some point?

Where have you been for the past 3 years?!

I can’t help but think of one of my favourite jokes.

There are ten types of people. Those who understand binary and those who don’t.

You don’t have to ‘identify as anything, surely? You are what you are. That is the biological sex you were born to and whatever way you choose to present to the world.

Most people don’t actually want to smash the gender binary.

I am genderfree so definitely non-binary.

On a serious note, I can totally understand the drive to identify as non binary. The only definition of woman that includes men is based on stereotypes. So if you accept that the definition of woman does indeed include men then you are accepting that woman is a description of a stereotype and not a neutral sex descriptor. And who actually adheres to the stereotype of a woman? Not actual women 'cos we're all individuals.

The question I want to know from any non-binary female person is why have you accepted a definition of woman that excludes you? Why have you not said this is clearly not the right definition of woman because I am one and I am not a stereotype? This would be smashing the gender binary.

If you're questioning your gender you are definitely trans.

It used to be called being an individual in the good old days when everyone actually wanted to be an individual and not labelled.

I have never met a binary person.

I thought having no gender identity was a trans identity.

I don't have a clue what binary people like.

I don't have a clue what gender I am supposed to fall under. We weren't taught to gender identify.

As such, because I have no gender identity, I cannot be cis or trans.

Fuck knows what I am.

I’m non binary; I like reading, the Beatles, walking my dog, the colour orange, pizza, rum, woodland and swimming.

What do binary people like?

Sex is binary for nearly everyone. Gender identity seems to be just how masculine or feminine you feel you are and is largely about your personality. I don't think how masculine or feminine I am matters very much and that if I wear lipstick and a silk dress one day and no make up and jeans the next I'm still me and nothing important changes about me. Much of my life isn't that different to the lives of the men I know. I think a lot of people dwell too much on what gender they want to be rather than what they intend to do in their lives.