CGD is not appealing Maya's judgment! Employment tribunal can proceed

I wonder which judge will hear the substantive case?

Maya said previously that it won't be James Taylor as he's been promoted.

I suspect that as CGD isn’t appealing the tribunal, they may well settle out of court. Why would they go back to court at vast expense in order to argue about something that they’ve already accepted to be true? Ie that Maya expressed philosophical beliefs that are protected under the EA? We all know that’s why they didn’t continue to work with her.

I hope they do just settle, for Maya's sake. She's been through a long enough battle, on all our behalf, and I'm sure she could do with this being finished up.

And from CDG's POV, it would be very difficult to now argue in court that Maya wasn't fired (or "didn't have her contract renewed") for her GC beliefs and it was actually because of something else, when their entire case so far has been that her beliefs were so awful that they had to sack her.

Worth so remembering that Maya didn't have any trans colleagues at CGD, so hadn't interacted with any or 'misgendered' any. The trans colleague was hypothetical. The only person she accidentally 'misgendered' was the Twitter TRA, bearded, suit-and-tie-wearing, man-presenting, counsellor Gregor Murray, who likes people to call them "they" in response to him calling women "utter cunts" (which I also think was after she'd already been fired?).

You're always good for a laugh. Did you get bored with haunting the Times comments?

I think DoM is a bit sad that no one at the Times comment section pays them much attention these days. Hence having to resort to us providing entertainment and interaction.

Passing the criteria as being a valid philosophical belief and therefore protected in the same way as other such beliefs doesn't mean anyone is required to 'respect that belief' themselves. I don't respect theistic religious beliefs. It does mean you have to respect other people's right to hold those beliefs.

Not only Judge Choudhury but of course, you know the chairman of the EHRC too!

She also said that women should not be prevented in discussing their concerns about their rights. That includes trying to make women feel shamed for having these discussions.

whoop whoop!

Quote from the appeal
The Claimant complained that she was discriminated against because of her belief. There was a preliminary hearing to determine whether the Claimant’s belief was a philosophical belief within the meaning of s.10 of the Equality Act 2010 (EqA). The Tribunal held that the belief, being absolutist in nature and whereby the Claimant would “refer to a person by the sex she considers appropriate even if it violates their dignity and/or creates an intimidating, hostile, degrading or offensive environment”, was one that was “not worthy of respect in a democratic society”. Accordingly, the Tribunal concluded that the belief did not satisfy the fifth criterion in Grainger plc v Nicholson [2010] ICR 360 (“Grainger V”). The Claimant appealed. Held, allowing the appeal, that the Tribunal had erred in its application of Grainger V. A philosophical belief would only be excluded for failing to satisfy Grainger V if it was the kind of belief the expression of which would be akin to Nazism or totalitarianism and thereby liable to be excluded from the protection of rights under Articles 9 and 10 of the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR) by virtue of Article 17 thereof. The Claimant’s gender-critical beliefs, which were widely shared, and which did not seek to destroy the rights of trans persons, clearly did not fall into that category. The Claimant’s belief, whilst offensive to some, and notwithstanding its potential to result in the harassment of trans persons in some circumstances, fell within the protection under Article 9(1), ECHR and therefore within s.10, EqA

113. First, there is the evidence that the gender-critical belief is not unique to the Claimant, but is widely shared, including amongst respected academics. The popularity of a belief does not necessarily insulate it from being one that gravely undermines the rights of others; history is replete with instances where large swathes of society have succumbed to philosophies that seek to destroy the rights of others.

However, a widely shared belief demands particular care before it can be condemned as being not worthy of respect in a democratic society.

114. Second, the Claimant’s belief that sex is immutable and binary is, as the Tribunal itself correctly concluded, consistent with the law: see para 83. The leading case is still Corbett v Corbett [1971]

The Judge is saying Maya's views are not unworthy of respect. What's the opposite of unworthy of respect, Disgusted?

That's fantastic news!

Fantastic news for Maya. And our gratitude to her for securing our rights in law. ❤️

Wonderful news 😍

DoM??

The appeal was allowed after the appeal tribunal concluded the belief that 'biological sex is real, important and immutable' met the legal test of a 'genuine and important philosophical position', and 'could not be shown to be a direct attempt to harm others.' As such these beliefs were afforded protection under the Equality Act.

The original tribunal's ruling that the belief was ‘not worthy of respect in a democratic society’ was overturned.

No its not. It says nowhere in the judgement that being gender critical beliefs are 'worthy of respect'. In fact it said pretty much the opposite. You really need to read the actual judgement, all the words.

Lol. Sour grapes? The judgement does mean that being gender critical is a protected belief. Thus worthy of respect. I expect you're very pleased. I certainly am ☺️

Being a sore loser is never a good look.

Wonderful news! So glad the ability to talk about women’s rights is slowly being reclaimed.

You really need to read the actual judgment, all the words.

Great news for Maya. She really has made this current dystopia a tiny bit more bearable.

👏👏👏👏👏

Brilliant news! Well done and thank you Maya

Well done Maya. This judgement really has started the process of the media openly reporting what is happening with this. One of the many positive outcomes.