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Green Party Women coup

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GreenPartyWoman · 27/06/2021 16:27

The Green Party Women's party was co-chaired by a transwoman Kathryn Bristow (fae/fae) and a woman Emma Bateman. Emma has been suspended for alleged transphobia.

Kathryn has now taken over, calling themselves the Chair and removing the rights of women to organise and discuss women's matters on the Green Party forum. Kathryn has gone so far as to delete all previous posts.

Their statement:
"Over the last week I have tried to find a way to moderate this space in compliance with the Equality Act. Unfortunately I can't see a way of doing this that the 100 or so users of this space would be happy with and that wouldn't take a lot of my or someone else's time. While we have to look after the interests of 10,000’s Green Party members.
So sadly I have had to lock the ability of uses to post and comment on this space. I've also deleted all recent posts on the space by users, to ensure that we are complaint with the law in a way that makes no judgement on any one post.
I have to bring it up with the rest of the committee but my feeling is that is space will become a one way commutation tool from the committee to the membership.
More updates will be made soon.

Kathryn Bristow, Chair of Green Party Women"

I don't even know where to go with this, except that this seems to be almost like a totalitarian coup.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/06/2021 14:01

@LegoCaltrops

Interesting how on the one hand, TWAW, absolutely and with No Debate. But on the other hand natal women aren't permitted to discuss matters pertaining to being female unless a trans woman or approved male is present.

It can't be both.

Don't be silly. It MUST be both!
WanderinWomb · 28/06/2021 10:56

Is Bristow still employed by Gender GP?
I think that is surely opening faeself up to accusations of huge conflict of interests. I dont know a huge amount about Bristow but that fae transitioned from male to fae only late last year.

Trying to not get a strike for misgendering gets harder and harder doesn't it?

RubyGoat · 28/06/2021 10:20

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mollythemeerkat · 28/06/2021 10:03

Will be interesting to see if the silencing of women can be challenged effectively through the law in this instance. I believe GP structures may make it very hard for women to fight it from within, and as someone has said, they have recently made some election gains which makes it harder.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/06/2021 08:48

This is a flagrant example of direct sex discrimination in light of the Reindorf report and Maya’s judgement and very unwise. I hope the Green Party has deep pockets. I would be happy to support an appeal to challenge this through the courts.

I can’t say what I think about “Kathryn” on MN without getting a strike, but let’s just say you’re not fooling anyone about who you really are and your agenda is clear as day.

Quite.

WarriorN · 28/06/2021 08:46

I bet most Green Party members and voters have no idea the party has gone mad.

No I don't think they do.

However more are learning. There are people who've had long involvement/ membership with the greens who are learning about this and aren't impressed. And know lawyers.

This idiotic tantrum thrown by KB is only serving to highlight the issue further.

Own goal 👏

Nonmaquillee · 28/06/2021 08:26

@MrsOvertonsWindow

Isn't that what #nodebate means? Women will remain silent and may not challenge the rights of men to determine what woman are, what the law is, what privacy and safeguarding boundaries will be breached, what drugs will be offered to children off label (often promoted by members of political parties) and so many other aspects of women's lives?

The trouble is, us pesky women will not be silenced. Angry

Yep

And Kathryn - “they” need to learn how to spell

SmokedDuck · 28/06/2021 08:24

@highame

The Green's made gains at the last election, so it will be difficult to get them to make changes. The only hope is that, as this hasn't been given approval, maybe it will stumble down the line. The Green's like the idea of no-debate don't they? so maybe not much hope.
Voters often have no idea that this sort of thing is going on behind the scenes - I think there needs to be a way to let them know.
CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/06/2021 08:13

Commutation?

Do the Fae have alternative meaning for every word in every dictionary?

Or is electrocution a GP approved punishment for women members?

BobbinThreadbare123 · 28/06/2021 08:08

Presumably this arrogant eejit doesn't mean "commutation"...

Freespeecher · 28/06/2021 07:53

'space will become a one way commutation tool from the committee to the membership'.

I'm not familiar with KB but yikes.

xxyzz · 28/06/2021 07:49

This is a proper authoritarian coup.

I bet most Green Party members and voters have no idea the party has gone mad.

"Women may not be permitted to speak on matters concerning women."

"Women must be neither seen nor heard."

It makes 19th century women's rights look quite advanced. At least the Suffragettes were allowed to speak.

somethinginoffensive · 28/06/2021 07:41

Bristow has misrepresented the Equality Act and is acting like a baby dictator.

I used to think I would have voted for the Green Party given a chance, but wouldn't touch them with a barge pole now.

How utterly embarrassing for the party that they are condoning this behaviour.

BlibBlobBlabBlub · 28/06/2021 07:32

How the FUCK can anyone expect to be taken seriously while insisting people refer to you as "Fae"

BettyFilous · 28/06/2021 07:31

This is a flagrant example of direct sex discrimination in light of the Reindorf report and Maya’s judgement and very unwise. I hope the Green Party has deep pockets. I would be happy to support an appeal to challenge this through the courts.

I can’t say what I think about “Kathryn” on MN without getting a strike, but let’s just say you’re not fooling anyone about who you really are and your agenda is clear as day.

highame · 28/06/2021 07:30

The Green's made gains at the last election, so it will be difficult to get them to make changes. The only hope is that, as this hasn't been given approval, maybe it will stumble down the line. The Green's like the idea of no-debate don't they? so maybe not much hope.

Congressdingo · 28/06/2021 07:25

@Flapjak

A man, chair of the Greens Womens party, isnt allowing women to speak. I dont know how the women in the Green Party can bare it.
I dont know why they dont all leave and demand a refund of any monies paid.

I know plenty said to fight from the inside, the idea has merit. But paying actual money over to be silenced is terrible.
The GP should soon crash and burn and then either rebuild itself with some green policies or just die a death never to be heard about again,

MindtheMinotaur · 28/06/2021 00:48

Green Party Women, used to be an excellent group. Lots going on and to get involved with. KB took over with hand maidens, with plenty of men registering as women to vote as the green party allowed self ID. Faeker got Emma Bateman suspended and now nothing is happening.

Because faeker weren't interested in the group in the slightest, they just wanted to force themselves onto women that didn't want them.

As KB says in the post, faery fae's got much better things to with faer time than a really be bothered with the group.

walkingthedog1 · 27/06/2021 22:40

Bloody hell that's bad

PearPickingPorky · 27/06/2021 22:26

All the women banned from speaking in the Green Party forum will just move the conversation elsewhere now though, won't they?

MujeresLibres · 27/06/2021 22:23

Does anyone know why Kathryn stood down from running as a councillor in the last election, is it to do with this? I wondered if there was some controversy within the party.

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GreenPartyWoman · 27/06/2021 21:35

flapjak it's happened because the woke misogynists enlist all their mates to join every time there's a vote that matters to women.
Others upthread are right.. this sort of thing never happens right?

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Flapjak · 27/06/2021 17:28

A man, chair of the Greens Womens party, isnt allowing women to speak. I dont know how the women in the Green Party can bare it.

Slythermum · 27/06/2021 17:20

I never imagined such a thing could happen! None of us could anticipate it, nope.
Ok who wants to bet on what they will do next?

OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2021 17:18

I'm amazed that KB wasn't suspended for actively inviting Twitter followers or anyone who was passing to break the law by incorrectly answering the census sex question.

(KB locked their Twitter shortly after that so I figured something was up.)

The GP can't care much about democracy, there should have been another vote, KB has got it by default. KB must be really proud.