Green Party Women coup

You`re right - there are some good people in the party still - we have some good local councillors where I live, some gender critical but worried about sticking their heads over the parapet and getting censored by HQ or perhaps splitting the local group with a bunfight which wastes a lot of time. This may change if the weight of organisations abandoning Stonewall and critical publicity on trans ideology after the Forstater case shifts the Overton window but it may be a while coming.

Hello. Is anyone able to post a link to Bristow's statement, please?? Or any other info on the subject? I've looked on Bristow's Twitter & green party women page etc but can't find anything. I want to write about this (so angry!) But need sources. I'd be so grateful. Thanks!

More important than losing membership is losing volunteers. People like Emma have worked hard for the party. They are the sort of people who found the bedrock of the democratic representation, as local Councillors etc, who graft day in, day out. Aimee Challenor, KB and others, may have access to an intersectional fast track, encouraged on by some of the party leaders, but to make an impact the party needs time and money. It also needs inclusion (in the old fashioned sense) rather than exclusion.

This particular group of people, supporting KB, is indeed responsible for pissing a lot of women off in the Green Party and causing some to leave. I suspect there is a disconnect between them and a number of their voters and potential voters too. As you say need more sleep - similar situation to the Labour Party

Don't forget Kathryn works as a GenderGP Pathway Advisor, GenderGP,

A couple of nuggets from the current Gender GP website for those with longer memories:

" Dr Helen Webberley is the founder of GenderGP she continues to campaign tirelessly for improvements in trans healthcare, she is not currently practising as a GP."

"GenderGP is owned by Hong Kong based Harland International Ltd, a global organisation which provides advocacy services for LGBTQI+ people around the world."

"GenderGP is an online health and wellbeing clinic which proudly serves transgender people of all ages across the world – and those who support them."

All sounds pretty commercial.

I don't know. I thought the environment was The Green Party's overriding priority. I would happily vote for a single issue party that advocated protection of the environment. But the GP carries too much additional, and controversial, policy baggage.

I also wonder about intersectionality. KB is a Green of colour, certainly was a young green, is an LBQT+++ green and is now Chair of Green women. Intersectionality was supposed to give a voice to those who are not easily heard, but instead it appears to act to magnify the voices of a few within party bubbles. The resulting disconnect between those amplified voices and the needs of the electorate is what I think lies behind the problems currently faced by Labour and the LibDems. Its fine Keir Starmer and Sadiq Kahn telling us that TWAW, but this is not convincing potential voters.

Baring in mind this person is in (head of?) both the lgbtq group as well as the "women's group."

Which now isn't allowed to meet online in its forum to talk about issues that affect women.

And wanting a group for woman isn’t transphobic, any more that it’s man-phobic, child-phobic or badger-phobic. It’s just wanting to have a group based on the concerns that affect only that group.

PumpkinSpice do you know what totalitarian means? People wanting to meet, talk and organise on the basis of sex, religion, sexual orientation etc is not totalitarian at all. Feminist women do not want to stop trans people from having their own groups.

But trans ideology wants to destroy sex based rights, control how everyone speaks, and not allow women do do anything at all as a group unless they let in any man who wants in by simply saying he’s a woman. That is totalitarian. It’s not the same thing at all as just having your own group.

Do you really think it’s totalitarian for a group of biological women to want to have their own group? Why?

They are all mad.

It was the greens who fucked up with Aimee challenor and dad wasn't it?

Yes.

Go on, what is Kathryn's agenda? Tell us!

I'm sure you'll eventually work it out.

But looking at their account it just seems to be about their sex life anyway which I'm sure is hugely important to Green Party voters.

I also seem to remember sparkly nails and how oestrogen makes fae totes emotes.

And "we defeated women's sex based rights" or something similar.

Said no serious female politician ever.

‘No debate’ didn’t come from the feminist side. And it doesn’t work well in the courtrooms does it?

Anyway.

It was the greens who fucked up with Aimee challenor and dad wasn't it?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/aimee-challenor-father-rape-election-agent-green-party-investigation-a8725701.html

'The inquiry, by Verita, said Ms Challenor, a transgender activist who was in the running to become the Greens’ deputy leader, committed a “serious error of judgment”.'

'They said members they spoke to had little awareness of safeguarding issues and those who were told about the charges “saw the issue as primarily a communications one – about protecting the reputation of the party”.'

Riiiiiiight. So the transphobes setting up their own little space isn't equally totalitarian?

I've never heard of this person but how can someone be polyamourous, pansexual and asexual? More importantly what does that have to do with their politics and why does this person think anyone else cares who they like or don't like to shag?

But looking at their account it just seems to be about their sex life anyway which I'm sure is hugely important to Green Party voters.

What makes me laugh is I keep reading TRA conplaining that the Green Party gives TERFS a platform. There is no moderate accommodations that will appease that side.

Unfortunately I can't see a way of doing this that the 100 or so users of this space would be happy with and that wouldn't take a lot of my or someone else's time.

Why on earth can’t KB make sure everything complies with the Equality Act even if that does take time? (Like maybe the time it would take to read and understand it ) - that is KB’s job! Is an Orwellian coup necessary because it’s quicker?

What an embarrassment KB is. I agree this is probably positive in the long run - the boat has been missed for using genderism to control everyone around you and the person is making themselves look like more of a liability every day.

Solidarity to Emma and the actual coherent-thought-having women of the greens.

The Green Party is completely TWAW. From the top down to the bottom up. Amelia Womack posted on SM about how she supports Trans rights on the day of the Maya judgement. Even if you believed that then the inability to read the room doesn’t reflect well on you

I admire the women trying to change it from the inside. I’m a member of the Labour Party and I’m resolutely staying despite how dreadful they are at the minute so I do understand. Though I think about leaving often

Faeself should Faek off

It has to be said