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Green Party Women coup

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GreenPartyWoman · 27/06/2021 16:27

The Green Party Women's party was co-chaired by a transwoman Kathryn Bristow (fae/fae) and a woman Emma Bateman. Emma has been suspended for alleged transphobia.

Kathryn has now taken over, calling themselves the Chair and removing the rights of women to organise and discuss women's matters on the Green Party forum. Kathryn has gone so far as to delete all previous posts.

Their statement:
"Over the last week I have tried to find a way to moderate this space in compliance with the Equality Act. Unfortunately I can't see a way of doing this that the 100 or so users of this space would be happy with and that wouldn't take a lot of my or someone else's time. While we have to look after the interests of 10,000’s Green Party members.
So sadly I have had to lock the ability of uses to post and comment on this space. I've also deleted all recent posts on the space by users, to ensure that we are complaint with the law in a way that makes no judgement on any one post.
I have to bring it up with the rest of the committee but my feeling is that is space will become a one way commutation tool from the committee to the membership.
More updates will be made soon.

Kathryn Bristow, Chair of Green Party Women"

I don't even know where to go with this, except that this seems to be almost like a totalitarian coup.

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NecessaryScene · 19/08/2021 07:07

This is a flagrant example of direct sex discrimination in light of the Reindorf report and Maya’s judgement and very unwise. I hope the Green Party has deep pockets.

Unfortunately, political parties are private organisations. I think they can pretty much do what they want, including discrimination. They're not service providers, part of government, or employers.

I don't think the equality act really applies to them.

But maybe I'm wrong.

LastSummerHere · 19/08/2021 07:02

Any TIM, Dick or Harry. 😂🤣 I like the cut of Emma's jib.

MiladyBerserko · 19/08/2021 02:16

Tinfoil hat theories would claim that the Greens have been deliberately infiltrated with the end game being that policies all about gender issues rather than climate issues and therefore ruin any chance of their being considered a credible party on Green issues.

Tricky to pick through that...

Mollyollydolly · 19/08/2021 00:18

I've joined today. It's not expensive and if enough women do so it sends a message. And I care about the planet too of course. It's a good way of sending a message to all political parties.

WarriorN · 18/08/2021 11:00

Many are!

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Faybian · 18/08/2021 10:42

Has everyone seen this? What are your views @letterem

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/aug/17/green-transgender-rights-row-leadership-shahrar-ali-sian-berry

Perhaps we should all join/rejoin and vote for him? Does anybody know any more about his record?

FindTheTruth · 05/08/2021 21:44

@letterem

Hi , I have just seen this thread from Facebook, and thought I would say thanks for the support from commenters. I am still suspended from the green party, and the complaint against me for asking 'are trans women female?' is yet to be heard, and won't be heard until at least the end of July.

I know some people cannot understand why I, and other women , would stay in the green party and put up with this nonsense, but I am an environmentalist. Climate change is as real as sexual dimorphism, and it needs addressing urgently. There is no other party talking about climate change enough, and I absolutely refuse to let a bunch of arrogant misogynists and women who would sell their grandmothers for a pat on the head from any Tim, Dick or Harry (because they have so little idea of the true value of grandmothers), destroy the party.

The complaint against me was brought by two green party women committee members, who have both done exactly what they said they were going to do, which was to take green party women in a new direction. I might suggest that direction is downhill, but I am sure others would have a different opinion (if there was anywhere left for members to voice that opinion, of course).

I am prevented from using the members space, though it appears now there is little point in using it anyway, as green party women members have been barred from commenting or posting in their own space, but I (and many others) are entirely unsurprised at the recent turn of events.
To launch one young man with a penchant for silencing women into the sacred untouchable caste may be regarded as a misfortune. To do it twice looks like carelessness.

Anyhow, I just thought I would say that much to the disappointment of some , I am still Rowling,Rowling, Rowling (but not rolling over), however, it would be unwise for me to comment further on what is happening to green party women, as no doubt the likes of Dick Filth and his ilk are lurking here ready to report unruly green sisters at the drop of a bonnet.

Emma (still co-chair of green party women despite rumours to the contrary).

❤️sorry for the thread revival but I wondered if there was news on the complaint being heard and all the other goings on.....
ShangaLangCleg · 27/07/2021 15:39

I know one of the candidates listed further back in this thread and they are definitely neutral in this. I think that's the best stance for a candidate to be in this fiasco, the consideration towards fairness should be paramount. I dont know any of the others.

GreenieFingers · 26/07/2021 22:26

@HonestyCounts97, I wish I could arrange that! The blatant extremism involved with the opposition and the complete lack of interest in green issues is staggering. The reverse is true for our very wonderful Emma, who is a committed and active Greenie. She's very aware of what is at stake for our planet if we don't act decisively and urgently, focussing on what we need to do to protect the environment and the future for our families and the other occupants of our planet.

HonestyCounts97 · 26/07/2021 12:41

@GreenieFingers cant @letterem come back and be the leader why not have someone who fights for women to be safe to be run the party. shore there must be lots of people who care about the earths and womens safety? Why is emma not aloud to do her jobs.

GreenieFingers · 26/07/2021 00:04

The light can only shine through if we manage to gain more supporters, especially those who are willing to be more active within the Party. We need people who will attend the conferences, vote (the membership percentage who vote is always abysmally low) and help to recruit others. Ideally we would love members to be active within their local parties, taking on roles such as Finance, Membership and Internal Comms etc, which may involve 1-3 hours weekly or monthly, depending upon the role.
Hopefully, our activists are encouraging former members to return as well as new members who have a genuine interest in the environment and climate change.
If the planet is burning, identity politics won't matter in the slightest.

mollythemeerkat · 14/07/2021 18:58

@NeedNewKnees

Sian’s been a disaster for the Greens. I’m clinging on by my fingernails, but a Green Party more interested in pandering to the trans lobby than tackling climate emergency is not fit for purpose.
Also agree as one of the many women who left over this nonsense and the election of Bristow as leader of the womens section. Question for me now is: Will the light shine through?
cervixuser · 14/07/2021 18:51

@NeedNewKnees

Sian’s been a disaster for the Greens. I’m clinging on by my fingernails, but a Green Party more interested in pandering to the trans lobby than tackling climate emergency is not fit for purpose.
i agree - we have completely lost our way and I'm clinging on by the very edge of my fingernails and I suppose if we want to effect change in an organisation we have to be part of it.
NeedNewKnees · 14/07/2021 18:29

Sian’s been a disaster for the Greens. I’m clinging on by my fingernails, but a Green Party more interested in pandering to the trans lobby than tackling climate emergency is not fit for purpose.

BraveBananaBadge · 14/07/2021 17:41

However, I'll never forgive her for saying "good" when green p women said they'd leave over the issue.

Yes, that's what I'll remember her for. I'm not a party member but that was the thing that finally lost them my vote, with no regrets.

WarriorN · 14/07/2021 17:30

For a green woman of such credentials, and string history of green campaigns, it's odd to resign over this isn't it?

WarriorN · 14/07/2021 17:27

It's an interesting chain of events, Emma being suspended, closing the Women's forum and now this. 🤔

(Meaning I have no idea. It's just interesting.)

aliasundercover · 14/07/2021 17:26

Surely Kathryn Bristow is the ideal candidate to unite the party. Kathryn could ban all debate then claim that there was no dissent.

The only issue is thinking of a man - sorry, non-woman - to stand alongside fae as leader. Shame Benjamin Butterworth is Labour, he’d be perfect.

WarriorN · 14/07/2021 17:25

Gosh this is interesting. And Bartley left a week or so ago. It is a shame for the Green Party as Ive been told she actually was really good on all things green, and hadn't been as nasty to those who disagreed with her on trans stuff as others had.

However, I'll never forgive her for saying "good" when green p women said they'd leave over the issue.

So, good.

BraveBananaBadge · 14/07/2021 16:43

What is going on? Bizarre to see no mention at all of the, erm, state of the environment in any of these reports, while the party falls to bits on a completely unrelated issue. It seems to be all the Greens can think about.

RoxytheRexy · 14/07/2021 16:32

Completely. He just couldn’t help himself. He was seduced, under her spell. She swooped in and made a mockery of his wedding vows.

Utter bollocks but we all know that it’s the women get blamed

mollythemeerkat · 14/07/2021 16:12

@Ereshkigalangcleg

As an aside her good friend of many years, Aimee (Challenor) is very sad to see her go.

Though Berry quickly deleted all tweets she had made retweeting or endorsing AC as soon the scandal about David Challenor and further revelations about AC broke, as recorded by the Mayoral deleted tweets account on Twitter, so it looks a little one way.

You`d think it would be the kiss of death to get this endorsement.
aweegc · 14/07/2021 15:56

@RoxytheRexy

Amelia Womack would be the obvious choice but she’s mental on Trans rights.

And I hear not particularly popular in the inner party due to adultery with a Green Councillors husband

I'm going to go out in a limb here but I'm guessing he was completely innocent and just led astray by this wicked woman who made him undermine his until then totally committed relationship?

It's shocking how far we've not done and even worse how it's in places like the GP that that's so glaringly obvious.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2021 15:50

As an aside her good friend of many years, Aimee (Challenor) is very sad to see her go.

Though Berry quickly deleted all tweets she had made retweeting or endorsing AC as soon the scandal about David Challenor and further revelations about AC broke, as recorded by the Mayoral deleted tweets account on Twitter, so it looks a little one way.