Sainsbury don't give a stuff about women...

Isn't Lord Sainsbury a Labour Peer?

I think they’re referring to John Sainsbury who is president and a Tory donor.

The campaign is run by Led By Donkeys, who were objecting to Sainsbury’s ads being run on GB News. I think they specifically had a problem with the Nigel Farage show because he was ranting about lifeboats in his usual charmless manner. Sainsbury’s have now pulled their advertising.

So, I guess if we want Sainsbury’s to listen, a boycott is in order. Especially since women are the core demographic who actually shop there.

#silentsainsburys trending on twitter.

Nigel Farage gets paid by their advertising?

That is interesting, Highame and yes, that is what I want.

I don't much care about what wording Sainsbury's exec office have on their inclusion policies - I want my Muslim neighbour to be able to go for a pee half way through her shop because she's heavily pregnant and that struggle is real.

You're right, I'm furious because women's bladders and safety and dignity should matter as much as someone's discomfort with their gender.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/if-its-social-justice-companies-want-they-should-start-with-their-workers-pj8m86jb3 Sorry I don't have a share token but found this yesterday evening (Business pages are my last bit . Although not about Sainsbury's, it is about the new wave of 'Social justice' companies who think we are interested in their credentials.

James Kirkup does a good job of drawing together a lot of research showing that we, the spending public, are not interested. We want companies to do good by relieving poverty and or helping local communities. In the business section, I thought this an important find because Times and Financial Times are read by big business, so a well placed piece.

That's interesting, Kwik.

Baroness Nicholson is Tory and might have an opinion on the toilets, if the DM whistleblower article is true. I do enjoy her emails to CEOs about single sex spaces, she's very eloquent.

Interesting, because Sainsbury’s are also getting a battering from the woke crowd at the moment for advertising on GB News and because the boss donates a lot to the Conservative party. So they may be sucking up to a certain demographic that is planning to boycott them anyway.

They also seem to be one of the companies who do the most rainbow washing during pride month. Ugly new versions of the flag everywhere. As a member of the LGBT community it just puts me off shopping there.

Did a google of "sainsbury's sexual assault" to list the cases.

Found this www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/08/sainsburys-signs-legal-agreement-to-prevent-sexual-harassment/

@MidCenturyClegs I wonder if it's worth me having a chat with the local manager. He's a nice guy, and runs a decent shop - they get the primary school in and support local events with goods and raffle prizes etc.

Might just see if I can have a F2F chat with him and really push the point that we have a Mosque in the community and if this is policy (which I suspect it is otherwise I'd not be getting the word-salad answers from the Exec office) then how will he personally ensure the privacy and safety of staff and customers given harm has been done on Sainsbury's premises by male people to female people?

It's an interesting email exchange, Mid. Nice replies, which sound helpful but don't answer the question.

DH is a lawyer, he does it too. If he doesn't like my question he gives an honest answer to the question that he'd prefer to have been asked.

My patience is wearing thin with their Exec Office.

"He added: 'Whilst we don't expect everyone to understand the journey trans people go on, we do expect our colleagues to show respect, kindness and understanding to each other.'"

"He" could start by asking about how often men do not display kindness towards women. We have been asking for millennia, and still at the least sign of any inconvenience for men, or any little thing that might mean they can't do exactly what they want, women and girls get pushed out of the way. Violence against women and girls is increasing in Britain, and has always been quite high.

I have a suspicion that a fair few companies esp ones with loads of staff and premises.

Head office says xyz awesome policy we're lovely etc. In response to people asking/ they tell certain publications etc.

But they don't publicise/ roll it out to everyone on the ground as it were.

So they can try to look super fab
But not cause a ruckus with the staff on the sharp end.

Waiting for clarification from their ambiguous wording, Mid

Suspect they think I button up the back.

Has anyone actually asked them which bit of the equality act they are referring to? Might be interesting to put them on the spot.

My favourite restaurant did this (well, made the female toilets "gender free" and kept the men's ). The bloke walking in as I was walking out looked just as confused and uncomfortable as me. How many people actually like this? I did complain, and got a bit of rudeness back. Haven't been back there since, what's the loss of the revenue of one woman compared to all the young women who apparently had told the manager that it was great?

I boycott lots of shops with mixed changing rooms nowadays - but I always email the CEO to tell them why.

And then I message Baroness Nicholson.

They are taking my rights away by stealth. I'm not accepting that quietly. The feckers.

Just shop elsewhere. I haven't bought an innocent product since a 12 year old intern took control of their social media policy and launched an offensive attack on a veteran feminist campaigner. Posters like MISHY want to persuade us that all companies are the same. Ignore the woke, brainwashing nonsense.

Mishy, don't make me laugh. It is regressive but you obviously can't admit it. Didn't you see the screenshot on Mumsnet recently? The majority of women (biological non-handmaiden) women dislike male bodied people in their spaces with them.

I emailed into the CEO about this. His office tells me that they have no change to their bathroom policy.

Have they back tracked?

@FloralBunting

Bingo! I did reply to that thread, I used to work with a TW and quite a few of the women I worked with weren't happy that he used the women's loos/locker room (this was before I was aware of the implications of the whole thing.) He left before I reached that point. I passed on some info about sainsbo's policies to a certain woman last year. I don't work there anymore, thank goodness, but was half expecting to be sacked for my views at some point.

@ChristinaXYZ that video is as clear as the others I have seen... to be an ally you don't need to understand it as only trans people do, but you need to educate yourself because the trans community won't help you, next you share pronouns to appease them, finally celebrate trans memorial day despite not having a clue what it means but remember they need to be kept happy

Oh no. I get most of my groceries from Sainsbury’s - now I have to find an alternative.

I've never had a toilet reflect me, unless you count the mirrors over the basins?

Take the mirrors out of the Ladies' put mirrors over the urinals in the Gent's - job done? All the penis-people can go and admire their reflections together.