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Photos from London's Trans Pride march

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Imnobody4 · 26/06/2021 16:10

twitter.com/BevJacksonAuth/status/1408797242878840833?s=09
I think this will cause all decent Trans people shame rather than pride.

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BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 26/06/2021 21:22

There will be some equally terrible people on the other side of the fence

like?

or is that complete bollocks?

Thingybob · 26/06/2021 21:20

For those of you knocking me I refer you back to my original comment and invite you to look at some more photos/videos from today's march. I'm not defending those placards but saying they weren't representative of the vast majority of those marching.

Thingybob · 26/06/2021 21:17

@theThreeofWeevils

I live in the real world where most people are good and well meaning Oh you are sweet and funny. Wanna buy a bridge?
Sorry I don't understand that comment
Erikrie · 26/06/2021 21:10

Wanna buy a bridge?

Maybe they already own one 👍

Tinysalmonswimminginastream · 26/06/2021 21:08

I don't live in the dark ages or on Twitter, I live in the real world where most people are good and well meaning. I don't believe it helps the GC case to demonise an entire group due to the behaviour of a few.

As has already been said, we have been told that we need to open up our female spaces to 'anyone who identifies as a woman'. How are we supposed to know who 'the few' are?

Also, in addition to whoever created these placards, these photos have already been shared on social media by several different people, one of whom had over 5000 followers on Instagram and has now deleted their account. They clearly felt it was appropriate to share this to their thousands of followers, so is it really just 'a few'?

We are talking about clear death threats here. I don't really give a fuck if it's just 'a few' - I don't want these people anywhere near female spaces.

theThreeofWeevils · 26/06/2021 21:07

I live in the real world where most people are good and well meaning
Oh you are sweet and funny. Wanna buy a bridge?

Erikrie · 26/06/2021 21:05

I don't believe it helps the GC case to demonise an entire group due to the behaviour of a few.

Do you think it helps the trans activist case to issue death threats and rape threats to women? There's plenty of it. It's not a minority. Because I can assure you, it does not help their case at all. And those abusive people who post these threats on twitter and other social media also live in the real world.

Thingybob · 26/06/2021 20:53

@RedDogsBeg

I agree with SweetPectrichor that it is only a very small minority who are full of hatred.

No it isn't a very small minority, if it was they would be firmly put in their place by the overwhelming majority whether that be for the reams of hatred, abuse and threats on SM or signs at marches, but they never are. The gun waving Brunel student who threatened Marion Millar had TRA's falling over themselves to excuse him and support him. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me it's a very small minority who hold these views, it isn't and you would have to be living in the Dark Ages not to know that.

I don't live in the dark ages or on Twitter, I live in the real world where most people are good and well meaning. I don't believe it helps the GC case to demonise an entire group due to the behaviour of a few.
toffeebutterpopcorn · 26/06/2021 20:49

I’ve seen a photo on twitter (could’ve been doctored of course) of the ‘kill’ card sitting on the military memorial at the end of green park. This was the same memorial that was attacked with paint by a trans person a while back - I believe they walked Scot free).

Hate women, no respect for war dead, lovely.

Erikrie · 26/06/2021 20:45

They never answer...

No. Although it's always worth asking. But of course they can't actually answer can they.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 26/06/2021 20:43

Saw a police video ‘call 999 if you feel threatened’ to the good people of the March (not the other marches of course) next to a ‘traumatic’ video of a row of rather bored looking motorcycle police parked in a line next to the rally...

Ever the victims...

SimonedeBeauvoirscat · 26/06/2021 20:41

I don’t understand why this kind of protest is allowed, when it is targeting a legally protected group of people? If people went on demonstrations with placards saying the equivalent about people who are Black and of other ethnic minorities it would be clamped down on. How can the police permit this kind of hatred to be openly expressed?

RedDogsBeg · 26/06/2021 20:38

I agree with SweetPectrichor that it is only a very small minority who are full of hatred.

No it isn't a very small minority, if it was they would be firmly put in their place by the overwhelming majority whether that be for the reams of hatred, abuse and threats on SM or signs at marches, but they never are. The gun waving Brunel student who threatened Marion Millar had TRA's falling over themselves to excuse him and support him. Don't insult my intelligence by telling me it's a very small minority who hold these views, it isn't and you would have to be living in the Dark Ages not to know that.

ClosdesMouches · 26/06/2021 20:28

@Erikrie

There’s idiots at any march. I strongly dislike Rowling’s stance on gender right

What don't you like about it?

They never answer...
Thingybob · 26/06/2021 20:23

I agree with SweetPectrichor that it is only a very small minority who are full of hatred. There are many photos and videos of today's march on social media and the photos in the OP are not representative of the banners held by the majority.

Letsgetreadytocrumble · 26/06/2021 19:38

There’s idiots at any march. I strongly dislike Rowling’s stance on gender right, but I don’t think there’s a place for ‘kill her’ comments and those who think that’s okay are in a small minority. There will be some equally terrible people on the other side of the fence

But what about 'Acceptance without exception'?

We are supposed to welcome anyone, no matter how they identify, into our spaces yes?

How are we supposed to know which of these people we have flung our spaces wide open for are the 'minority idiots' who make death threats against female writers?

Letsgetreadytocrumble · 26/06/2021 19:31

Oh come on, we know the real hated comes from people putting up RIBBONS and STICKERS which say Shock 'Woman: adult human female'....

The TRAs are falling over themselves to claim that these images are photoshopped/not from the march which has led to the posters of these photos being named - one of those people has now deleted both their Instagram and twitter accounts.... Oh dear!!!

RedDogsBeg · 26/06/2021 19:28

@SweetPetrichor

There’s idiots at any march. I strongly dislike Rowling’s stance on gender right, but I don’t think there’s a place for ‘kill her’ comments and those who think that’s okay are in a small minority. There will be some equally terrible people on the other side of the fence.
Small minority on the TRA side my arse, it's the overwhelming majority and the proof of that is the bucket loads of threats, abuse and harassment meted out to woman who dare to dissent or refuse to accept the ideology.

Facts and evidence as always ignored by the TRA side and their allies.

Datun · 26/06/2021 19:13

@SweetPetrichor

There’s idiots at any march. I strongly dislike Rowling’s stance on gender right, but I don’t think there’s a place for ‘kill her’ comments and those who think that’s okay are in a small minority. There will be some equally terrible people on the other side of the fence.
What did she say that you think is wrong? Because an awful lot of people have not read what she's written.

She has trans friends, and fully supports trans people. She also thinks that sex is real.

Who is 'terrible on the other side of the fence'?

Erikrie · 26/06/2021 19:06

There’s idiots at any march. I strongly dislike Rowling’s stance on gender right

What don't you like about it?

SweetPetrichor · 26/06/2021 19:04

There’s idiots at any march. I strongly dislike Rowling’s stance on gender right, but I don’t think there’s a place for ‘kill her’ comments and those who think that’s okay are in a small minority. There will be some equally terrible people on the other side of the fence.

ClosdesMouches · 26/06/2021 18:47

Both sides
Be kind
Right side of history

Datun · 26/06/2021 18:25

@IAmAWomanNotACis

This one is really upsetting me is this

twitter.com/Ayrshirelass13/status/1408807559419543552?s=20

  • The Gender Identity Clinic isn't there to give you care
  • Your GP doesn't need approval from your LA or GIC to prescribe you hormones
  • Any reason why your GP is reluctant to prescribe you hormones is BS
  • It's okay to not tell your GP about mental or physical health conditions that may mean you have to have extra appointments to make sure that the treatment is the right thing for you. Those things relevant information about your health are none of your GP's business
  • Ask your GP for "bridging" hormones while you wait to be seen by the GIC. Of course once you're on them your GP has a "duty of care" to continue them.
-Self-medicate. It's probably fine.
  • If you self-medicate, your GP should have to prescribe you hormones for harm reduction.
  • Go private for just £1000.

Can we say SAFEGUARDING? No? Anybody? ANYBODY?!!?

Jesus wept. These people need prosecuting.
Erikrie · 26/06/2021 18:19

They don't know the meaning of pride. Utterly shameful. What the heck is wrong with some people. Right side of history my arse.

littlbrowndog · 26/06/2021 18:18

Spanish women protesting now

Photos from London's Trans Pride march