The Times articles on Stonewall: 26.06.2021

The Scottish and Welsh Governments give annual grants to Stonewall in addition to membership fees.

I don't know why the other high spenders were missed off that list. Figures for 2020 haven't yet been released, but in previous years the DfE and FCO have also given 6-figure sums to Stonewall.

DfE: £299,611 in 2019 and £233,673 in 2018
FCO: £145,075 in 2019 and £125,855 in 2018

(Both these departments have failed to reply to FOI requests about their dealings with Stonewall)

Also NHS Scotland: £46,000 in 2019 and £33,324 in 2018

Details here:
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/02412299/filing-history

Which of the articles is this in?

StonewalleEquality list 'bullies bosses and silences dissent' piece:

Sorry wrong thread

To the pp who thought the coverage of Stonewall would make orgs double down. I'm my case no. Our exec board paid no attention at all to our stonewall affiliation until now. Faced with the potential of negative coverage we are ditching them quicker than you can say pronouns.

So thanks to The Times. They've done a great service to us all!

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On my first sift through, I'm not seeing much.

Depending upon the issues, I would hope the people who were 'corrected' or 're-educated' in internal forums (proudly presented in screenshots) might now have a case to bring against their employers if they suffered any decrement or had their employee record marked in any way.

Which of the articles is this in?

What an excellent campaign the crowd sourced foi campaign from sex matters was. Really effective.

There really is room for an organisation who provides training and support to employers on good practice for all of the pc's, including on balancing when conflicts arise, looking at the whole thing in the round. Maybe run by discrimination or employment law specialists, with input from people with all of the different pcs.

Thanks everyone for the archive links. Still hoping a share token will work at some point because I always think reading the comments is so enlightening!

All that bloody money from the Welsh & Scottish government & it doesn't include all the hours of work done by people paid by the Welsh/Scottish government - the true totals must be far higher.

Archive link for the Times Editorial on the 3 pieces: archive.is/QNzz5

Keep Prisons Single Sex is also looking for some regular gardeners. I'm having a payday trip to the garden centre!

The Welsh Government gave even more to Stonewall in 2020.

Total amount in 2020 was £152,909.

Has anyone checked the IPO claims that it used its soc med accounts to support all the other protected characteristics?

Wtf could possibly cost 125 grand

How do they justify these costs that's surely a TA or 2 in a struggling school or something. What a waste of money people claim not to have

The Welsh Government gave even more to Stonewall in 2020.

Total amount in 2020 was £152,909.

Payments made since August 2020 are £33,411 paid on 26th November 2020 and £6,000 paid on 6th October 2020.

Payment information prior to August 2020 is exempt under Section 21 of the Freedom of Information Act (2000) – information readily accessible to the applicant by other means. Information provided under requests for information ATISN 14097 and ATISN 14280 can be found on the Welsh Government disclosure log gov.wales/freedom-of-information-responses

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/724006/response/1736294/attach/html/12/ATISN%2014841%20disclosure.doc.html

Amounts from earlier FOIs:

£225.00 04/02/2020
£34,324.00 20/02/2020
£4,200.00 02/03/2020
£35,173 19.5.2020
£39,576 14.8.2020

gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2020-07/ATISN%2014062%20and%20%20ATISN%2014097.pdf

gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2020-09/ATISN%2014280.pdf

The article about the equality index is really interesting. It explains all the random and often baffling tweets from various gov agencies and orgs over the last few years. They're all chasing points to get ahead in this scheme. The parallels with MLMs are uncanny.

I’m waiting for the legal cases of staff who have felt scrutiny and bullied or have been hounded out because of this nonsense.

From Lucy and agree totally

You have to admire their campaign - excellently drawn up and executed. Quite a text book campaign...

And this

Ranking them at 101 must've been deliberate.

Indeed. Of course it is. Jesus.

This is unbelievable

If you are able to, please sign up as a regular donor to Sex Matters, especially before June runs out.

If you are a new regular donor, you can double your donation: To help us get off to a flying start a generous donor (not her!) has offered to match the annual donation of anyone who pledges in June to donate monthly for a year.

I had a payday trip to the garden centre yesterday.
Bought a beautiful annual from Sex Matters.

And a couple of lovely house plants from LGBAlliance and MurrayBlackburnMackenzie who have a little garden at least partly inspired by the RCN. Our Royal College of Nursing pretends not to know why sex matters.

I honestly don't understand how all these organisations think they are advocating for any LGB person when endorsing the T renders LGB utterly meaningless. Or completely undermined.

Can they not connect any dots?

Reading the recommendations to 'do better' from stonewall makes it perfectly obvious how biased it all is. The wording is so over the top, almost comedy. How can they not see?

And is there any evidence, stats, etc, that the company's do actually attract better employees because of the rainbow washing? Where is the study? Because that's the reason they do it, isn't it?

Yes nonny

It’s the other groups which SG spends much money on and they are all interlinked

I suspect a number of us knew there was this level of coercion because otherwise the collective loss of sense and lack of due diligence among employers made no sense.

Depending upon the issues, I would hope the people who were 'corrected' or 're-educated' in internal forums (proudly presented in screenshots) might now have a case to bring against their employers if they suffered any decrement or had their employee record marked in any way.

I would wonder if this might finally put a stop to people putting their pronouns in their Zoom chyrons, emails etc. and workplaces/events stopping the pressure on other attendees to do likewise.