Transphobic hate crime

It does sound like the police simply couldn't be arsed.

What did police do before the existence of CCTV cameras?

@334bu I hadn't thought of a homophobic attack, but yes, that is probably what it started out as.

I just thought bog-standard rape. It reminded of one time in my youth when I was attacked by a group of men and nearly raped, though fortunately no knives were involved.

In other words, the mentaliy of these men is that if transmen think they are going to be safer now that they have a beard, they are going to teach them that they are still exposed to the dangers of being a woman.

Also for the record:

Male on male violence is highly common.

Male on female violence is highly common.

Male on trans violence I don't feel confident in saying how common or uncommon it is but funny how all the incidents I've ever heard of have been perpetrated by men.

It's almost as if men are the problem.

Not even every murder makes local news.

This was a Portuguese social media post that was picked up and then reported by Pink News because they just Google to find trans stories.

Local news in any city would just be full of attempted muggings every single day if all made the press.

If Ruan contacted the Echo themself then would be a better chance they'd cover it.

I am pretty cynical about the police, but even leaving aside the hate-crime aspect, I find it hard to believe that they would not investigate further when they are told about a group of men carrying knives. Where I live (big city, not Bournemouth) the police take knife crime very seriously indeed and I’m pretty certain would follow this up. For example, I’ve seen them tweet for further info and to warn the public when there have been incidents with knives/groups of young men. I think something has got lost in translation here, possibly.

I think one reply is deserved and fair enough. I'm just anti when they engage us for hours and people waste thousands and thousands of words on them.

Badly translated article from social media post has led to a lot of quite massive extrapolation about gang of kidnappers driving around Bournemouth with guns attempting to rape transmen. Perhaps that's the case but is rather a huge leap from what we know.

I wonder if Ruan had been offered an interpreter and been able to explain better police would have taken it more seriously. Also may have understood that taking no action doesn't mean ignored more likely to mean checking local for CCTV and aren't allocating detectives to this case.
I do hope if didn't have interpreter can make another statement with one assisting.

It sounds like Ruan did go to the police but the police said there was no CCTV (unlikely behind a supermarket) and no witnesses (surely they could ask, as Ruan was initially attacked outside their front door).

It does sound like the police simply couldn't be arsed.

Not surprising this didn't make the national news, sadly attacks like this happen in every town , every night

I am amazed it didn't make the local news.

Not surprising this didn't make the national news, sadly attacks like this happen in every town , every night.

I feel quite indignant on behalf of Dorset Police. They would definitely have investigated this. The implication is that they don't care because it was a transphobic hate crime. I can categorically tell you that wouldn't be the case.

Ruan really should get some support to get the police to pay attention. I've had a look at the Dorset Police website www.dorset.police.uk/news-information/ and they seem fairly proactive in asking for information on what seem to be relatively minor crimes such as theft of a mountain bike. I find it shocking that they would fail to investigate what sounds like it may be an attempted kidnapping / attempted rape. Perhaps there was a language barrier? Either way I hope someone is able to assist Ruan on getting this taken seriously.

this doesn't seem like your usual random assault.

No it doesn't, it's possible the attackers already knew the sex of their victim and Ruan's internal sense of identity was not a factor in what these men planned to do.

It's a serious crime, a premeditated physical attack with a sexual element, I don't understand why Ruan would drop the charges and have it reported online. If you were dropping charges wouldn't it be so you could forget about the whole thing? I do understand why victims don't want to press charges as the prospect of facing your attackers is too much for them, but why then go to the media when the police could be doing something to stop it happening again?

Wearing gloves and being armed makes it most likely that they were muggers who go around pulling knives on people regularly.
Not to diminish the fear that the victim felt or remaining traima, but nothing points to transphobia being the driver, though may well have been an aggravating factor.

Given that it was a premeditated attack / kidnapping Ruan was also very lucky to escape the group of men by biting one of them and running away.

Hopefully there will be CCTV at the supermarket they ran to that Amy be useful?

What role do you think the constant anti-trans rhetoric of "gender critical" feminists played in this attack?
Have you washed the blood off your hands yet?

I'm not sure why the OP posted this in feminism as it appears to be a homophobic anti-trans crime so perhaps LGBT section would have been more appropriate.

Is yeahbutnaw the barrister Simon Cox or Jolyon Maugham? They seem to want to blame violence on women's words too.

It is a very odd attack.

It appears like an premeditated kidnapping, that Ruan says only turned violent then they realised Ruan was trans.

The kidnappers were prepared enough to wear gloves and they also seemed to have been very careful not to permanently mark Ruans face with their knives.

Which makes it even odder that the police weren't interested - this doesn't seem like your usual random assault.

Maybe the transman understandably forgot to tell the police they were trans, so they just assumed it was a standard attack on a woman.

Also: could all violent men please stop attacking women?

Apparently feminists have the power to make you listen to us. I’m not sure when that came about but it’s terrific news. Andrea Dworkin called for a rape truce a while back, how about you all do what she said? Thanks ever so much, violent men!

Is it just that the police don’t care about violence against women no matter how they identify?

I suspect that is the case. And not just the police. Hence why "sex" isn't a protected characteristic when it comes to hate crimes.

I wonder this all the time about VAWG, but hoe do the police have time for stickers and Tweets but not for this?

I thought it was something to do with screwy incentives around targets and “hate crimes,” and crimes against women don’t count for that.

But this was a clear cut hate crime, that unlike most incidents recorded as “hate crimes” is an actual crime. Is it just that the police don’t care about violence against women no matter how they identify?